Antonio Conte (173 Viewers)

[Lion]

then why point out something irrelevent like millan winning scudetto?

isnt it time to go wait in line to collect some gasoline?

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

then why point out something irrelevent like millan winning scudetto?

isnt it time to go wait in line to collect some gasoline?

because scudetto > champions league, it was much easier to win CL in 90s than now

 

[Lion]

then why are you mad at conte for, and in your own words "not using this squad to its potential"

 

[K.O.]

because scudetto > champions league, it was much easier to win CL in 90s than now

Does that mean Conte is doing a legendary work by being on top from round 1 and winning the scudetto 3 rounds early? Or is it a failure season because he lost to Bayern in CL's QF?

You need to make up your mind, RUS. No more brain-farts please.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

then why are you mad at conte for, and in your own words "not using this squad to its potential"

Because we never had coach who is calling his own team as fucking outsiders, it's makes me sick, people are still hating Delneri because he said shit about us and coppa italia but they okay with Conte's shit just because he won the trophies, but it's not about trophies, i don't need coach who lost the battle before it starts, who is crying that fans in Italy are rude etc.

 

[Zacheryah]

because scudetto > champions league, it was much easier to win CL in 90s than now

I recon totally killing the creativity of a legendary ajax side who's potential was even reaching the cruyff ajax, is much easyer then shutting down barcelona. its not like pathetic half decent milan defence did it. its not like bayeren humilliated barcelona by fielding van buyten and getting away with it.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Does that mean Conte is doing a legendary work by being on top from round 1 and winning the scudetto 3 rounds early? Or is it a failure season because he lost to Bayern in CL's QF?

You need to make up your mind, RUS. No more brain-farts please.

Lol he made amazing job, i said it hundred times, last season he never said such a disgusting shit in his interviews, he was extremely polite and objective

 

[Zacheryah]

you should go into politics, changing your words so it seems you are right at the end, but arent

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I recon totally killing the creativity of a legendary ajax side who's potential was even reaching the cruyff ajax, is much easyer then shutting down barcelona. its not like pathetic half decent milan defence did it. its not like bayeren humilliated barcelona by fielding van buyten and getting away with it.

Ye, they've played against such a big powerhouses like Casio Salzburg, AEK Athens, Hajduk Split in 1995 CL tournament teams to beat

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you should go into politics, changing your words so it seems you are right at the end, but arent

"Chiellini wouldn't be a starter in 96"

 

[K.O.]

RUS, have you watched Serie A in the 90's? Actually, have you watched any football when you were 2-3 years old? You sound very confident talking 90's football.

 

[Trequartista]

RUS, have you watched Serie A in the 90's? Actually, have you watched any football when you were 2-3 years old? You sound very confident talking 90's football.

Of course he has.

 

[Zacheryah]

Ye, they've played against such a big powerhouses like Casio Salzburg, AEK Athens, Hajduk Split in 1995 CL tournament teams to beat

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"Chiellini wouldn't be a starter in 96"

Please stop making a total fool out of yourself

 

[K.O.]

Of course he has.

Any idea what's the football stats website he's using? I wanna watch some 70's football.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

RUS, have you watched Serie A in the 90's? Actually, have you watched any football when you were 2-3 years old? You sound very confident talking 90's football.

I've become Juventus fan in 1996, when i've watched the CL final against Ajax. Of course i didn't had a chance to watch every single Juventus game in 90s, no internet, no satellite tv, but since 1999/00 season i've watched every single serie a/b season, and i've a lot of retrospective videos about Juve in 90s, so don't tell me that i was too young for that stuff.

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Please stop making a total fool out of yourself

You did it already with the statement about Chiellini

 

[Salvo]

All Conte said is that he needs to have clarification that this project will move forward, that is what I understand, a backing from the club. This is good, it puts pressure on the club that will hopefully cause us to buy some quality players.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

RUS VS Lion and Zach

what a momentous day in Tuz history.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

RUS VS Lion and Zach

what a momentous day in Tuz history.

They think i didn't watched Juventus old games cause i was too young it's like internet and torrents were not created yet

 

[napoleonic]

good discussion guys... I'm serious...

about conte, yes there are some things I don't like about his work this season as I have voiced many times since 2013 games happened, 2x cattenacio vs celtic no matter if the matches won by 1-0 or 1000-0 is something quite unacceptable for juventus level, and it's not only that, aside from 2 games vs chelsea we were generally worse this season than last; in case some of you jumped into the better numbers in statistics for this season argument, I guess we can come into agreement that stats don't show everything right.

last season it could be said that we were unlucky not to win more games, but this season we have regressed into what can be said as we were lucky to win in many games.

we've lost the intensity, aggression and quickness in our play that made breakthrough in italian football at the 1st half 2011-2012 season, that play style that I believe amazed all of us fans and perhaps the play that made many of us thought that we were finally able to compete in europe unlike our last few european seasons in which we played crap and outdated football including capello era.

the most shocking thing for me is the reason the club gave for this change of play style, which is stamina-endurance problem and this so called pepe problem; when one objectively analyze that, it will not make sense at all.

flexibility is lost and conte is now afraid to drop certain players from the starting XI even when it happened many times that the player add little to our play, unable to give us advantage and become our weakness; add that, one can also ask what's wrong with trying asamoah as LB and isla as RWF? especially if those 2 positions are what is deemed as the main reason to avoid using 4-3-3 anymore.

and there's the monotonous attacking setup employed, which is consisting throwing CMs forward and let the regista and CBs to play long balls upfront; it worked alright at the beginning of the season (or last season too perhaps), but at this point it has no longer effective.

and then the comments, yes at some points I agree with RUS here... he already gave bayern too much credits and too downplaying juve players' mentality after the 1st leg, quite shocking because it came from a man who gave awesome speech last season; suddenly he became like a coward midtable club level of coach; for a comparison I didn't recall juergen klopp said something like that even after dortmund crashed at the CL group stage last season, remember Dortmund is considered even poorer than us.

and then he started again with the comment about spitting bloods against italian team... lol, it formed a picture not so good IMO.

on that matter I agree with RUS, but I agree with some that he deserve to move to a more financially capable team if he truly have that ambition and that his latest comment should give yellow alert to our management to do much better in upcoming mercato.




and now about the nostalgia thing, actually I agree with RUS, as a unit and especially in the midfield, this current team is better than the 96 CL winning team.... but the 97-98 team was better this current team.

football is harder today than ages before... in the very top level, football today is much faster than ages before, and faster = harder for the human body itself; yes individual defending is way worse and individual slow ballerina styled skills almost extinct today but the organization, athleticism and speed make up more to the general play; even logic say that the more you do certain physical thing, the more you adept to it and now football players play more games / season than 20-50 years ago, can also add the increased professionalism and medical science.

it is impossible that football was harder in 70s-90s than today.

 

[TrezJuve]

Thread is complete: Rus, Lion and Napoleonic.

 

[Zacheryah]

I'm having to report both of you for insulting yourselves with this crap. sorry.

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nowadays, defenders can hardly controll space and double mark

back in the 90ties, half of the serie a could perfect a tight defence, better then milan at home against barcelona

half of the players of the 95 squad had more duelwinning skills on their own then our entire current formation combined