Antonio Conte (171 Viewers)
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what did the nincompoop say this time?
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The "we haven't got the financial resources" is just a poor excuse IMO to cover the poor performance.
Manchester City has spent more than several big teams names and yet they finished last in their group, even Ajax dominated them to go through Europa league.
You also got the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Shakhtar who are financially ahead of Malaga, Dortmund and probably on par with Galatasaray yet they didn't make it.
Yes, financial resources helps you re-inforce your squad, but not a guaranteed trophies or else Madrid would have won at least their 10th CL in their last 10years +.
The difference between Malaga and Dortmund is immense in terms of quality, cash and history, Malaga was about to make the semi's until the last couple of seconds literally. And I'm 100% sure they would have fought the same way had they played Bayern and not Dortmund.
Whereas Juve's Conte, made it too easy to be hunted. I saw poor Juve squad put a real fight against Zenith, Real Madrid, Chelsea after calciopoli and not to mention how ahead these teams were in-terms of financial resources but against Bayern there simply wasn't any because according to the team there's huge financial gap between the two? I don't buy that.
Again, Conte is the right man for the right job, no two ways about it, but himself and the fans should accept critics for this very poor performance in the two legs.
Manchester City has spent more than several big teams names and yet they finished last in their group, even Ajax dominated them to go through Europa league.
You also got the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal, Shakhtar who are financially ahead of Malaga, Dortmund and probably on par with Galatasaray yet they didn't make it.
Yes, financial resources helps you re-inforce your squad, but not a guaranteed trophies or else Madrid would have won at least their 10th CL in their last 10years +.
The difference between Malaga and Dortmund is immense in terms of quality, cash and history, Malaga was about to make the semi's until the last couple of seconds literally. And I'm 100% sure they would have fought the same way had they played Bayern and not Dortmund.
Whereas Juve's Conte, made it too easy to be hunted. I saw poor Juve squad put a real fight against Zenith, Real Madrid, Chelsea after calciopoli and not to mention how ahead these teams were in-terms of financial resources but against Bayern there simply wasn't any because according to the team there's huge financial gap between the two? I don't buy that.
Again, Conte is the right man for the right job, no two ways about it, but himself and the fans should accept critics for this very poor performance in the two legs.
Nah bro c'mon, they easily dominated the midfield too, Pirlo was too easy for them to mark, Marchisio and Pogba couldn't press them long enough and it was too easy for them to recover the ball and play easy while killing time.
Their attack wasn't the only difference in this match. They wanted to win much more than Juve, it was obvious.
Their attack wasn't the only difference in this match. They wanted to win much more than Juve, it was obvious.
And those differences that Conte pointed out seemed off the pitch. It just was a bad attitude to approach a game like that given that Conte talks about his team having balls and football being played on the pitch. This excuse will mean very little given that Italian football is going to be in the dumps a long time, but Juve still have a perfectly sane model to launch from, and invest more wisely than in the past. You can't be making economic gap excuses when you have two RWBs in Licht and Caceres and buy a third for 18m and then don't play him.
Yes, and that's why Conte got this wrong. The tactical approach itself is at fault, of course the players would have loved to play the semi's.
Not really.
Barcelona vs Chelsea last season wasn't played at an open high tempo by Di Matteo yet his players were fighting with Terry red carded in the first 20min and showed some hunger to win the game even though they applied their own Catenaccio.
Not really.
Barcelona vs Chelsea last season wasn't played at an open high tempo by Di Matteo yet his players were fighting with Terry red carded in the first 20min and showed some hunger to win the game even though they applied their own Catenaccio.
Chelsea are an experienced CL team.
I don't think football is quite as simple as you are making out. There are tactical, technical and psychological reasons why we didn't win the game. Don't forget we also went behind after 30 seconds, so have been chasing the tie for over 180 mins.
When good players stop playing to their usual level it's not because they aren't interested, it's because of mindset and what the opposition do to counter it.
I just don't see how these things suggest Bayern wanted it more. Who doesn't want to win the CL? That they know how to do it is something different.
Maybe Spain wanted to win the Euros more than Italy. More likely is they were better, the game went their way, and they have that mentality to win and know how to do it. Maybe that is what you mean by 'wanting it more'.
I don't think football is quite as simple as you are making out. There are tactical, technical and psychological reasons why we didn't win the game. Don't forget we also went behind after 30 seconds, so have been chasing the tie for over 180 mins.
When good players stop playing to their usual level it's not because they aren't interested, it's because of mindset and what the opposition do to counter it.
I just don't see how these things suggest Bayern wanted it more. Who doesn't want to win the CL? That they know how to do it is something different.
Maybe Spain wanted to win the Euros more than Italy. More likely is they were better, the game went their way, and they have that mentality to win and know how to do it. Maybe that is what you mean by 'wanting it more'.
That's not an excuse, Di Matteo was new and was un-experienced too.
The first leg yes, it was nasty start for Juve to concede in 24 seconds. But in the 2nd leg, if you're not ready psychologically then I don't know how you can be the Champion of Italy for the last two seasons.
You're squeezing my words out of the context. Of course every player dreams of playing and winning this trophy but the way Conte applied his tactics and formation to the players transmitted into huge failure and putting no fight or even trying.
The first leg yes, it was nasty start for Juve to concede in 24 seconds. But in the 2nd leg, if you're not ready psychologically then I don't know how you can be the Champion of Italy for the last two seasons.
You're squeezing my words out of the context. Of course every player dreams of playing and winning this trophy but the way Conte applied his tactics and formation to the players transmitted into huge failure and putting no fight or even trying.
