Antonio Conte (113 Viewers)
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Forget this stupid idea about pulling Juve players from the Italy team.
It's just as ridiculous an idea as 'just' moving to France.
All Juve can do, as far as can see, is work behind the scenes to garner support for changes in personnel and procedure at the FIGC.
There have certainly been plenty people criticising how this whole situation has been handled, particularly with regards to the procedures in the sporting tribunals.
It's just as ridiculous an idea as 'just' moving to France.
All Juve can do, as far as can see, is work behind the scenes to garner support for changes in personnel and procedure at the FIGC.
There have certainly been plenty people criticising how this whole situation has been handled, particularly with regards to the procedures in the sporting tribunals.
really? who, where and what did they say? and they are criticising the system, not exactly defending juve; who knows? maybe they will also turn their back to us just like palazzi who actually unveiled inter's involvement in calciopoli last year.
and juve just have too many mortal enemies within the system that making it a one sided fight.
and juve just have too many mortal enemies within the system that making it a one sided fight.
I can't recall who, but there have been various people criticising the system for being antiquated and not fit for use in modern football.
Of course.
They don't know whether Juve are guilty or not and it's not their place to comment on that.
What they are aware of, looking on, is how easy it would be for them to be in the situation Juve are in, despite the club doing nothing wrong.
Onlookers from other clubs will have looked at this and they won't much like the idea of having to prove their innocence just because some proven liar has dropped their name in during an interview with authorities.
Of course.
They don't know whether Juve are guilty or not and it's not their place to comment on that.
What they are aware of, looking on, is how easy it would be for them to be in the situation Juve are in, despite the club doing nothing wrong.
Onlookers from other clubs will have looked at this and they won't much like the idea of having to prove their innocence just because some proven liar has dropped their name in during an interview with authorities.
It's not necessarily all gloom and doom. He was charged with not reporting 2 games and has been cleared on 1 of them. So he now only needs to appeal the 1 remaining game he allegedly did not report. I think the task at hand is a bit easier now. Being cleared on 1 of the charges, to me is pretty significant, although I admit I may be completely clueless on this.
Can someone confirm or deny the following, below in italics?
Carrobio alleges that Stellini contacted him, and asked him to call some AlbinoLeffe players, in order to fix the match in Albino's favor. There is no tangible evidence.
If this is true, I'm optimistic that Conte is going to win his next appeal. If the FIGC just confirmed yesterday that Carrobio's testimony regarding the Novara/Siena game was deemed illogical and therefore false, then he's obviously no longer a credible witness - by exonerating Conte for the Novara/Siena game, the FIGC judges have admitted as much. They may be able to play power games in their own courtroom, but I don't think their logic will stand up in any reasonable court.
So do they actually have further evidence, or is this all just Carrobio's word? Stellini is banned, but he hasn't admitted anything. I just can't understand how this decision could be upheld outside that inbreeding cesspit.
Carrobio alleges that Stellini contacted him, and asked him to call some AlbinoLeffe players, in order to fix the match in Albino's favor. There is no tangible evidence.
If this is true, I'm optimistic that Conte is going to win his next appeal. If the FIGC just confirmed yesterday that Carrobio's testimony regarding the Novara/Siena game was deemed illogical and therefore false, then he's obviously no longer a credible witness - by exonerating Conte for the Novara/Siena game, the FIGC judges have admitted as much. They may be able to play power games in their own courtroom, but I don't think their logic will stand up in any reasonable court.
So do they actually have further evidence, or is this all just Carrobio's word? Stellini is banned, but he hasn't admitted anything. I just can't understand how this decision could be upheld outside that inbreeding cesspit.
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How do you expect us to just garner support. From who? We already have the largest fan base in Italy but did that help? Its not about support when the people running the show don't want you around.
You start by taking away something that hurts. Thats why people recommend not letting the players go off to the national team. There really isn't anything Juve can do. Agnelli can complain via the media until he loses his voice but it just falls on deaf ears of those in charge and irritates those about "believe Juve cheated" even more.
Juventus is between a a rock and hard place right now. They are defending an innocent man against a corrupt and inefficient system. We have absolutely no control over it and they know this. A man can go down in flames 100% innocent all because someone pointed a finger at you. When something like that can happen and get a pass in an appeal you have a serious problem.
Lobbyism. Who exactly who are we trying to get to support us?
How do you expect us to just garner support. From who? We already have the largest fan base in Italy but did that help? Its not about support when the people running the show don't want you around.
You start by taking away something that hurts. Thats why people recommend not letting the players go off to the national team. There really isn't anything Juve can do. Agnelli can complain via the media until he loses his voice but it just falls on deaf ears of those in charge and irritates those about "believe Juve cheated" even more.
Juventus is between a a rock and hard place right now. They are defending an innocent man against a corrupt and inefficient system. We have absolutely no control over it and they know this. A man can go down in flames 100% innocent all because someone pointed a finger at you. When something like that can happen and get a pass in an appeal you have a serious problem.
Lobbyism. Who exactly who are we trying to get to support us?
This whole thing is surreal. You win the Scudetto looking unbeatable. Then your manager is banned for the season. What does Milan do in response to such a gift? Sell every good performer at the club, and release all the legends. 
Conte is thanking God right now that Milan are so stupid. I think you'll coast easily to the Scudetto.
Conte is thanking God right now that Milan are so stupid. I think you'll coast easily to the Scudetto.
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But seriously, this is out of control (not that we didn't already know that).
I would say not allow the national team players to play for Italy but then the FIGC will make a new rule that allows absolute authority to Prandelli and the national team. So, how do we get even?
We win. That's it. If we continue winning, the only way to bring us down will be another Calciopoli.
But seriously, this is out of control (not that we didn't already know that).
I would say not allow the national team players to play for Italy but then the FIGC will make a new rule that allows absolute authority to Prandelli and the national team. So, how do we get even?
We win. That's it. If we continue winning, the only way to bring us down will be another Calciopoli.
It is already not allowed to prevent players from going to the NT when called up. (Unless in case of a proven injury.)
Depends. It is now being claimed that his involvement in the 2nd game is way more serious than it supposedly was in the 1st...