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How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Wrong. That was his proposal as a plea bargain to the FIGC. If he is banned from football, he cannot be near the team until the ban is up. It would be unusual, although it cannot be ruled out, for FIGC to allow a dispensation to Conte and allow him to train the squad.

What you mentioned above is Conte's proposal as a plea bargain to the FIGC, which was rejected.
I don't think Conte can define what the bargain entails. He can only ask for a reduced sentence. There are no other terms to be discussed in such a plea. The ban by it very nature holds up from entering locker rooms, giving conferences and being on the bench only on match days.
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
The commission wants Conte's lawyers and Palazzi to agree on a new plea bargain and present it to the court.
Tell them to F**K OFF and take them to the real courts.
I would agree on a two year ban for Palazzi!!
No! I would accept nothing less than FIGc being fined a million Euros for fixing the league in favour of the 2 Milan clubs, a life ban for Palazzi and a life (jail) sentence each for that ASSH*LE GC Abete and his sidekick Ferramosca.
Juve lawyers are now challenging the FIGC judges and asking them to recuse themselves.
Quite right too!
Taking it to civil court will only fuck up more for us, as we'll lose Conte for a year in first place.
No! Surely they cannot apply a ban until he is proved guilty. That can take years in Italian courts.
new FIGC rule: -
you can cheat, fix games, take drugs...but if you blame Juve or one of it's members you'll get away with it.

new one about scrapping the whole trial.
That rule has been enforced since Abete and Ferramosca were put in charge of FIGc by moRATti.
Fuckin' Italian Gay Cunts
Aka MoRATti's boyfriends.

.... About time we take a stand against the FiGC.... I got a great idea to bitch slap the FiGC, let's play all our home games and not how up for the away games leaving empty stadiums all across the peninsula. It might wake them up and stop them fucking with their golden egg. Either that or Agnelli takes Juve to france. Enough bs.
Guys can we start a petition about this, and bombard the FiGC with logical questions like the ones being raised here. We need to take a stand, cant be treated this way.
Yeah! We could also petition FIFA to Ban the two clubs who profit by FIGc;s bias against Juve: - Milan and :inter: We could also petition FIFA to ban the Italian National Team until moRATti's b*tches resign.

In a shock move, the FIGC judges in the betting trial have rejected plea bargains from Antonio Conte and Siena, but Torino and Varese accept one-point penalties.
The trial into the match-fixing scandal began this morning with FIGC prosecutor Stefano Palazzi putting forward his requested sentences to the judges. Several were plea bargains, which the panel was widely expected to accept and ratify this afternoon.
However, the judges sensationally rejected the plea bargains as “not suited” to the charges & turned down almost all of them.
As already reported, Juventus Coach Conte offered a plea bargain of 3 months and a €200,000 fine set to go to charity. Conte was charged with failing to report an attempted fix to authorities while he was Coach of Siena in 2010-11.
In the terms of the rejected plea bargain, he would’ve been unable to sit on the bench, enter the locker room or give interviews on match day until November 1, though Conte could continue day-to-day training.
The same accusations were levelled at Siena, who offered a plea bargain of a 5-point penalty and a €40,000 fine.
Torino & Serie B side Varese proposed a one-point penalty with €30,000 fine and these were accepted by the judges.
Juventus lawyers have reacted angrily and are trying to have the whole trial scrapped.
They have requested that the judges be recused from the case, because by rejecting the plea bargain “you have already made your decisions and you therefore cannot judge in a trial what you have already judged. The Corte Costituzionale in 1992 ruled a judge cannot rule after he rejected an agreed plea bargain.”
The other requests rejected by the judges were:
Angelo Alessio (Juventus assistant manager), two-month ban and €60,000 fine. Giorgio D’Urbano (Siena fitness coach), four-month ban. Dario Passoni (Bolzano) and Mirko Poloni (Albinoleffe assistant), four-month ban. Marco Savorani (Siena goalkeeping coach), four-month ban.
The plea bargains accepted were:
Filippo Carobbio, four-month ban on top of previous 20-month suspension after he confessed. Carlo Gervasoni, three-month and 20 day ban on top of previous 20-month suspension after confessing. Marcelo Larrondo, three-month and 20 day ban plus €30,000 fine. Daniele Faggiano (ex-Siena director of sport), four-month ban. Da Costa (Sampdoria), three month ban and €30,000 fine. Luigi Sala (ex-Milan and Bari defender), two-year ban. Cristian Stellini, two year ban and €50,000 fine.
The only 'proof' the have on Conte 'knowing' about match-fixing is carrobio's word; - the word of a match fixer! :( Take FIGc to the real courts - and carrobio too! Sue them both!
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
TS - Palazzi asking for 4 months and 100,000 €.


how about no suspension and 444m €? They'd accept that in a heartbeat!
that's pretty normal , the rejected request was 3 months and 200k so conte would be back for the merda match , obviously an imediate call from moratti :inter: to palazzi :inter: did the job . They are lowering the fine and adding time to the ban so he can't play the merda match
 

juve901

The Strategist
Jul 8, 2008
300
I don't think Conte can define what the bargain entails. He can only ask for a reduced sentence. There are no other terms to be discussed in such a plea. The ban by it very nature holds up from entering locker rooms, giving conferences and being on the bench only on match days.
I see what you're saying. But being a lawyer, I can clarify that a plea bargain is a proposal by the defendant to the prosecutor or judge. In Conte's case, he's pleading 'not guilty' to the charges but in return for a shorter sentence than if he is found guilty and given a 1 yr ban, he is offering those terms you described above (the bargain). He pleads not guilty, but concedes a short-term ban and a fine given to charity.

This plea bargain is given as a proposal by the defendant to the prosecutor and/or judge, and then they discuss it, and if possible agree on it and move ahead with it. It appears that those terms were agreed upon by the prosecutors, but in a bizarre move, the judges then rejected it. That's why everyone is freaking out and Juve are opting to move the judges off the case as an obstruction against an already agreed upon plea bargain by the defendant and prosecutor.

Since the plea bargain has been rejected - it is up to the judge(s) to decide the 'punishment'. Whatever they decide, Conte has no part in, and could only appeal for a shorter sentence at a later time. An appeal process would be lengthy and his ban would most likely be over before he gets an appeal trial. The only other option is they discuss another plea bargain and try to come to agreement on that.
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
20,112
Fuck them over. Take this to the higher instances. I don't fucking care about italian football, UEFA can disqualify all italian clubs but at least we won't have to deal with this bullshit. If those cunts want to play dirty show them that Juventus won't be their bitch every fucking time.

SCREW
THEM
 

AngelaL

Jinx Minx
Aug 25, 2006
10,215
@Carlogarganese
If #Juventus decide to stop their players from playing for Italy national team, I wouldn't blame them - Italian system is rotten to the core
:agree:
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@Carlogarganese
And hurting Juve in CL is actually hurting Italy because Milan & Udinese have as much chance of doing well as BATE Borisov
:lol:
@agiamba
Until the 10+ Siena players who swore Conte was honest get referred for the same thing as Conte, this system is beyond a joke.
The 10+ Siena players are 10+ in favour of Conte compared to one corrupt corrobio against him.
Italy, the only industrialized nation to continually rank high on the corruption index.
:agree: The current FIGc board have continually brought shame to Italy, Italian & European football!
TS - Palazzi asking for 4 months and 100,000 €.
how about no suspension and 444m €? They'd accept that in a heartbeat!
For Palazzi??? He should be hung, drawn and quartered!

3 months and 250000 and we have a deal. Or 4 months total, to include Alessio's time as well. :D
Toni does the first two months and Alessio does the last two! :D
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
I see what you're saying. But being a lawyer, I can clarify that a plea bargain is a proposal by the defendant to the prosecutor or judge. In Conte's case, he's pleading 'not guilty' to the charges but in return for a shorter sentence than if he is found guilty and given a 1 yr ban, he is offering those terms you described above (the bargain). He pleads not guilty, but concedes a short-term ban and a fine given to charity.

This plea bargain is given as a proposal by the defendant to the prosecutor and/or judge, and then they discuss it, and if possible agree on it and move ahead with it. It appears that those terms were agreed upon by the prosecutors, but in a bizarre move, the judges then rejected it. That's why everyone is freaking out and Juve are opting to move the judges off the case as an obstruction against an already agreed upon plea bargain by the defendant and prosecutor.

Since the plea bargain has been rejected - it is up to the judge(s) to decide the 'punishment'. Whatever they decide, Conte has no part in, and could only appeal for a shorter sentence at a later time. An appeal process would be lengthy and his ban would most likely be over before he gets an appeal trial. The only other option is they discuss another plea bargain and try to come to agreement on that.
Ok understood. So the new plea bargain can still contain the same terms albeit with a longer duration? So when you say ban from ahll football, it is an assumption the punishment will be that severe!?
 

v1rtu4l

Senior Member
Mar 4, 2008
6,349
surely the amount the want to have from conte can be invested more sensibly.

just call furio giunta and give him the money.



he will find a solution for the carobbio problem. no whitness, no trial ;)
 

juve901

The Strategist
Jul 8, 2008
300
Ok understood. So the new plea bargain can still contain the same terms albeit with a longer duration? So when you say ban from ahll football, it is an assumption the punishment will be that severe!?
Yes the new plea bargain can still contain elements of the original, with exceptions being a longer term, and, say, pleading 'guilty' to the charges instead of 'not guilty'. But we'll have to see what the judge(s) were looking for. It's unsual that they rejected the plea bargain, so they must be looking for something else or had some kind of reason to do so. It's hard to tell.

Any ruling of a ban would be more severe than any plea bargain terms. Any normal ban could be that Conte is excluded from all footballing activities from 3 to 12 months.

IMO, they'll try to renegotiate another plea bargain, as both sides I don't think would prefer this to go to trial - but you never know with the FIGC, they might prefer a trial (hence, rejecting the plea bargain).
 

Carlos Primera

Il Vecchio Signore
Mar 29, 2009
1,189
I was looking forward to this season so much. Good luck trying to get wc players t coome and join us. I use to defend this league against its detractors, but shit like this just makes me lose interest in it. Fuck palazzi and the FIGC.
 

j0ker

Capo di tutti capi
Jan 5, 2006
22,892
Yes the new plea bargain can still contain elements of the original, with exceptions being a longer term, and, say, pleading 'guilty' to the charges instead of 'not guilty'. But we'll have to see what the judge(s) were looking for. It's unsual that they rejected the plea bargain, so they must be looking for something else or had some kind of reason to do so. It's hard to tell.

Any ruling of a ban would be more severe than any plea bargain terms. Any normal ban could be that Conte is excluded from all footballing activities from 3 to 12 months.

IMO, they'll try to renegotiate another plea bargain, as both sides I don't think would prefer this to go to trial - but you never know with the FIGC, they might prefer a trial (hence, rejecting the plea bargain).
Every source out there is saying that if he gets banned he will still be able to train the team, if you have any inside info please share it with us.
 

TheLaz

Senior Member
Oct 6, 2011
5,531
Let's hold back our national team players!!!!! Italy is fucked without us so if you fuck with us we fuck with you.. (im so childish right now but this case pisses me off like no other)

Just for the fun of it; what could Italy lineup if you take away all the Juventus players?
 

IliveForJuve

Burn this club
Jan 17, 2011
18,923
Oh my goodness! No matter what happens, we'll still win the league.

---------- Post added 01.08.2012 at 17:32 ----------

I wasn't very surprised either :p One of my professors is following the case and he doesn't see much hope. Conte will probably end up accepting/offering a longer ban.
 

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