Antonio Conte (127 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Italy are just shooting themselves in the foot. Whereas other countries and other sports try to cover all this shit up (yes, it does happen everywhere and in almost every sport), Italy are somehow proud to air their dirty laundry, in the process not only damaging their reputation, the reputation of the league, and discrediting innocent people in some cases, but they are also contributing to the gradual demise of Serie A, and rapidly decreasing interest in the sport in Italy from top players the word over.

Fuck the FIGC, and Forza Conte, Bonnucci, and Pepe.
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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Italy are just shooting themselves in the foot. Whereas other countries and other sports try to cover all this shit up (yes, it does happen everywhere and in almost every sport), Italy are somehow proud to air their dirty laundry, in the process not only damaging their reputation, the reputation of the league, and discrediting innocent people in some cases, but they are also contributing to the gradual demise of Serie A, and rapidly decreasing interest in the sport in Italy from top players the word over.

Fuck the FIGC, and Forza Conte, Bonnucci, and Pepe.
I don't think it's about airing shit out, it's about fucking Juve over.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
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Monday we'll know more. The press are reporting he's going for a plea bargain and he's banned for 3 or 4 months, missing 10-14 serie A games and 5 CL games.

:scared: :scared: :scared:
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Like I said 4 months is a long time in the context of the championship, espesh with a relatively new lot of players who have to understand these tactics as part of the 352. Possibly Isla, Armero, Lucio, RvP and Gio. 5 CL games is pretty much the group stage right there. 10 Serie a games is a lot in a 36 match season. Yes sure, he will train and prepare us, but I think Conte is the kind of manager who has a huge effect from the sidelines and in the dressing room during halftime. You can't replace that, and at some point and on some level its bound to affect the team.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Guess he got "unlucky" that they picked him to make an example of.
Do you think luck would play its part if he was coaching Atalanta right now? No I doubt it would. In fact the only reason Conte is unlucky, is because he is the undefeated coach of Juventus. The system in place, and the inability of understanding the bigger picture is beyond the idiots who run this sorry excuse of a league. Its pitiable but true, that Italian football deserves its place because of the inbreds that run the show. Juve unfortunately don't deserve this but suffer in return for giving the National team a core that takes them to World Cup trophies and Euro finals. Disgusting. Sad. Appalling. Fuck all.
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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Do you think luck would play its part if he was coaching Atalanta right now? No I doubt it would. In fact the only reason Conte is unlucky, is because he is the undefeated coach of Juventus. The system in place, and the inability of understanding the bigger picture is beyond the idiots who run this sorry excuse of a league. Its pitiable but true, that Italian football deserves its place because of the inbreds that run the show. Juve unfortunately don't deserve this but suffer in return for giving the National team a core that takes them to World Cup trophies and Euro finals. Disgusting. Sad. Appalling. Fuck all.
You could be right but it still doesn't make him less guilty. Look at it this way; if he hadn't done anything wrong, he wouldn't have been in trouble now even though he would be the undefeated coach of Juventus.
 

abstract

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Mar 3, 2012
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Italy are just shooting themselves in the foot. Whereas other countries and other sports try to cover all this $#@! up (yes, it does happen everywhere and in almost every sport), Italy are somehow proud to air their dirty laundry, in the process not only damaging their reputation, the reputation of the league, and discrediting innocent people in some cases, but they are also contributing to the gradual demise of Serie A, and rapidly decreasing interest in the sport in Italy from top players the word over.

$#@! the FIGC, and Forza Conte, Bonnucci, and Pepe.
:tup:
 

king Ale

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Oct 28, 2004
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You never know in Italy.
Of course, if Calciopoli has taught us anything, it is that justice system in Italy is beyond ridiculous. Considering the severity of this betting problem in Italy, it's obvious that several offers of match fixing are received by players/personnel. They either accept such offers or decline. If all those who declined had reported what they'd received, we'd have heard much more about it than what we have now but out of all who refuse to report, they pick the Juventus coach to punish. I'm not surprised but what I'm saying is that it doesn't make Conte less guilty of what he's done.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Italy are just shooting themselves in the foot. Whereas other countries and other sports try to cover all this shit up (yes, it does happen everywhere and in almost every sport), Italy are somehow proud to air their dirty laundry, in the process not only damaging their reputation, the reputation of the league, and discrediting innocent people in some cases, but they are also contributing to the gradual demise of Serie A, and rapidly decreasing interest in the sport in Italy from top players the word over.

Fuck the FIGC, and Forza Conte, Bonnucci, and Pepe.
replace Conte Bonucci and Pepe with Stramaccioni, Samuel and Zanetti and I wonder how sympathetic you would feel for them.
 

Klovn

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Jul 28, 2011
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Of course, if Calciopoli has taught of anything, it is that justice system in Italy is beyond ridiculous. Considering the severity of this betting problem in Italy, it's obvious that several offers of match fixing are received by players/personnel. They either accept such offers or decline. If all those who declined had reported what they'd received, we'd have heard much more about it than what we have now but out of all who refuse to report, they pick the Juventus coach to punish. I'm not surprised but what I'm saying is that it doesn't make Conte less guilty of what he's done.
:agree:
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Also, could someone clarify, assuming Conte goes for a plea bargain and the hearing is august 1, does the ban take place with immediate effect, that is will the 3-4 month ban include the month of august, because in reality, that could mean missing from the bench till november, if it's a 4 month band and October if it's a 3 month ban, given that we don't give a shit who sits on the bench for our friendliest in August. Logically, the ban should start fro. August since preseason is already underway and we have matches lined up.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
19,250
You could be right but it still doesn't make him less guilty. Look at it this way; if he hadn't done anything wrong, he wouldn't have been in trouble now even though he would be the undefeated coach of Juventus.
Assuming, he has done something wrong, and that is not report the matter?! Are you trying to tell me that him and Bonnucci would be going through all this trouble if they weren't at Juve? Look at the scandal around us. So many players involved, but the system has prioritised the people they want to crack down on first and foremost. As far as I'm concerned, this is just the FiGC's way of telling Agnelli where to get off, when he decides to try and be a hero in his three star campaign for Juve and fighting for two lost scudetti. I refuse to believe this is Italy trying to cleanse itself of wrongdoing. As we've all seen, Calciopoli hurt the league more than it helped it, I don't see how these petty investigations and bans are going to change anything, except give the spiralling, poverty stricken league some bad press. This is the last thing we need in our battle to refigure the balance of power. There is no cleaning up act here because people don't realise, they're not fighting individuals here, they are fighting a mindset.
 
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    replace Conte Bonucci and Pepe with Stramaccioni, Samuel and Zanetti and I wonder how sympathetic you would feel for them.
    Exactly.

    If they are found guilty they got only themselves to play.

    Juve fans are biased and IMO it has nothing to do with 'corrupted' FIGC.
     

    Jem83

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    Nov 7, 2005
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    Exactly.

    If they are found guilty they got only themselves to play.

    Juve fans are biased and IMO it has nothing to do with 'corrupted' FIGC.
    This is a ridiculous post, not really worthy of a comment, but since I happen to know that there are other members on this forum who from time to time like to project a "rational" aura, coming in to save the rest of us from certain posts that have 'emotional', typical fan-content in them, I cannot resist.

    It's easy to be an armchair-fan, to sit comfortably in one's home, when one doesn't live in Italy and (seemingly) have no clue whatsoever what it's like to live down there, with regards to corruption. I don't live down there myself, but I know a bunch of people who do, and they struggle with these things EVERY day. Every single day is a constant, frustrating, kafkaesque struggle with the authorities. Every layer of italian society is influenced by corruption, somehow.

    How can you sit there and call anyone "biased" when it comes to an italian authority?

    How can you do it considering everything that has happened with Juventus recently?

    How can you have a mindset that, "well gee, Conte, Bonucci and Pepe might be innocent and all, but ... well, if there's a ruling by the mighty, competent FIGC, well, then .... then :shocked: ... then they must be guilty :moan: "

    Can you please explain to me which events and courses of action that FIGC has done in the past 10 years that warrant such remarkable faith in their work?
     

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