As far as I understand, Conte and even more so Bonucci and Criscito are targetted AS witnesses. They need their testimonies as evidence, to implicate the real culprits. They want to them to squeal.
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In most western european countries, that's not a valid reason to raid someone's home. You have to have probable cause, the actions undertaken by the authorities must be prescribed by law, and they must be reasonable and proportional to the ends received. They must respect the country's internal laws and also the human rights laws of the European Union (which Italy has ratified and made part of their system of laws).
If these criterias aren't met, then the citizen can get compensation, and the public officer will most likely be relieved of his or her duties.
However, it seems Italy doesn't give a flying f*ck about any of this
My point, though, is that they didn't just raid Conte's house because he's a witness. He's definitely a suspect, and probably a major one since they went to such lengths.
If these criterias aren't met, then the citizen can get compensation, and the public officer will most likely be relieved of his or her duties.
However, it seems Italy doesn't give a flying f*ck about any of this
My point, though, is that they didn't just raid Conte's house because he's a witness. He's definitely a suspect, and probably a major one since they went to such lengths.
In most western european countries, that's not a valid reason to raid someone's home. You have to have probable cause, the actions undertaken by the authorities must be prescribed by law, and they must be reasonable and proportional to the ends received. They must respect the country's internal laws and also the human rights laws of the European Union (which Italy has ratified and made part of their system of laws).
If these criterias aren't met, then the citizen can get compensation, and the public officer will most likely be relieved of his or her duties.
However, it seems Italy doesn't give a flying f*ck about any of this
My point, though, is that they didn't just raid Conte's house because he's a witness. He's definitely a suspect, and probably a major one since they went to such lengths.
If these criterias aren't met, then the citizen can get compensation, and the public officer will most likely be relieved of his or her duties.
However, it seems Italy doesn't give a flying f*ck about any of this
My point, though, is that they didn't just raid Conte's house because he's a witness. He's definitely a suspect, and probably a major one since they went to such lengths.
do you really think the police expected to find some written trace of condemning evidence in Conte's house or Criscito's Italy locker? of course not.
Reginaldo: 'No Siena fixes'By Football Italia staff
A former Siena player accuses the President and Coach AntonioConteof involvement in a betting scandal, butReginaldoassures “there wasnothing.” Thepolice conducted dawn raids on Monday, including on ex-Siena bossConte’shome , as the investigation into alleged match-fixing continues.
Conteand PresidentMassimoMezzaromawere pulled into the spotlight by ‘whistle-blower’FilippoCarobbio, who claimed the patron asked them to lose a game, but both squad and staff refused. “I am at this moment hearing what is alleged and I’m astounded,” said former Siena manReginaldoonTuttoJuve. “To be perfectly honest, in my experience at Siena I did not see or hear anything about these supposed match-fixing attempts. “In fact, I’d never suspectConte, because he never even said to ‘relax in thisgame.’Never. I can confirmConteis a good man and I really doubt the Coach could have done such things, especially with a team who certainly didn’t need the points. “There was nothing about betting or trying to ‘fix’ games. The rapport betweenCarobbioandContewas normal. NowCarobbiois in crisis because he’s being banned from football and so he’s starting to say what he thinks is right. “Novara-Sienacould not have been fixed, as it was a perfectly normal match. I remember I tried to score at all costs and didn’t manageit.”
The accusation currentlylevelledatJuventusCoachConteis of not reporting an attempted fix to the authorities.
A former Siena player accuses the President and Coach AntonioConteof involvement in a betting scandal, butReginaldoassures “there wasnothing.” Thepolice conducted dawn raids on Monday, including on ex-Siena bossConte’shome , as the investigation into alleged match-fixing continues.
Conteand PresidentMassimoMezzaromawere pulled into the spotlight by ‘whistle-blower’FilippoCarobbio, who claimed the patron asked them to lose a game, but both squad and staff refused. “I am at this moment hearing what is alleged and I’m astounded,” said former Siena manReginaldoonTuttoJuve. “To be perfectly honest, in my experience at Siena I did not see or hear anything about these supposed match-fixing attempts. “In fact, I’d never suspectConte, because he never even said to ‘relax in thisgame.’Never. I can confirmConteis a good man and I really doubt the Coach could have done such things, especially with a team who certainly didn’t need the points. “There was nothing about betting or trying to ‘fix’ games. The rapport betweenCarobbioandContewas normal. NowCarobbiois in crisis because he’s being banned from football and so he’s starting to say what he thinks is right. “Novara-Sienacould not have been fixed, as it was a perfectly normal match. I remember I tried to score at all costs and didn’t manageit.”
The accusation currentlylevelledatJuventusCoachConteis of not reporting an attempted fix to the authorities.
All I'm saying is that without following a strict formal legal procedure, such "pressure" is illegal. In the scandinavian countries, it would've been a sh*tstorm in the media and the police officers and their superiors would be suspended for life. Raiding someone's home without all of the criterias being met, is a human rights violation. I know that these things happen every day in the US, and in some european countries (Italy being the most backwards when it comes to human rights), but it's actually unacceptable and against the law.
If they DID, however, meet all of the criterias, then the raid was legit. It's just that I'm yet to see anything in this case that could justify such a move by the authorities.
If they DID, however, meet all of the criterias, then the raid was legit. It's just that I'm yet to see anything in this case that could justify such a move by the authorities.
I know, but to me, from what I know about Conte's involvement, and what I know about law (the part of the EU law which I know that Italy has ratified), it seems the police broke the law when they raided Conte's house. You don't raid someone's house on a hunch or because someone heard something from someone and said that Conte probably knew about something.
