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How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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It's petty. We had plenty of chances to score to have depend on a penalty. I'd rather hear him "observe" how impotent our attackers were.
how is it petty when blatant calls are being turned down?

yes our attackers need to do better, but does not mean we ignore the obvious.
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
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I did, I complained about it, we cant impose ourselves on games as much with this formation.
:tup:

This formation is starting to piss me off. Esti and Licht can support the attackers, but not create enough. We should just play with a trident upfront, not this 3 man backline bollocks.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
how is it petty when blatant calls are being turned down?

yes our attackers need to do better, but does not mean we ignore the obvious.
Blatant calls are turned down everywhere, it's the nature of the game. Focus on putting goals in back of the bloody net and win games that way instead of crying over spilled milk.

:tup:

This formation is starting to piss me off. Esti and Licht can support the attackers, but not create enough. We should just play with a trident upfront, not this 3 man backline bollocks.
Our midfield get's too congested as well. 433, as always, is the way to go.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Missed calls happen. I'd prefer to stray away from complaining about refs considering the unfortunate situation we are in post-2006. Win, as we always have, on the field. Up until yesterday we have had a zillion chances to put these games away on our own.

All dropped points we have aren't because of missed referee calls but because we can't put the game away on our own.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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It's funny how often reality becomes altered when a point is trying to be made.

If we lose the scudetto by a non-penalty on the final matchday then perceptions would change, but in reality there are all as important.

It's not really about Pirlo's penalty or those in the Parma game, they weren't 100% penalties so on their own you can decide either way. It's the consistency of non-penalties for Juve over the season. Add a direct contrast with Milan and of course it becomes an issue, it's ok being moralistic about it but at some point when it happens over and over you have to say something, or it keeps on happening.

Donadoni can stick his Milanista view up his ass to be honest. I can find a dozen examples of Galliani blaming the referee after a game, and twice as many showing how Milan have benefited from soft penalties in the following games. That's the influence they have, as a big club with big fingers in every pie.

If we sit and be quiet every week we will continue to be turned over by officials, nothing is given in Italy without a word. The club can go about it in a classier way than ranting in a post match interview, but essentially you are saying the same thing; 'why are we not being treated equally?' If you are for inequality in sport then maybe silence is for you. Frankly, having followed Italian football for so long I'm sick of it. If you want to create tier systems in calcio then there is no reason why Milan should be alone at the top.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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No one is going to be treating us equally anytime soon anyways, we should all know this by now. It's the way it is unfortunately. That's why there are more important things to worry about with the team than penalties given or not given. Fuck Milan & Napoli for always crying. We all hate them for it and bash them when they do it, so why do we want to be the same? Had we had scored a goal yesterday no one would be talking about it.

Sounds like excuses to me.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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No one is going to be treating us equally anytime soon anyways, we should all know this by now. It's the way it is unfortunately. That's why there are more important things to worry about with the team than penalties given or not given. Fuck Milan & Napoli for always crying. We all hate them for it and bash them when they do it, so why do we want to be the same? Had we had scored a goal yesterday no one would be talking about it.

Sounds like excuses to me.
I get it, if you don't play well you don't deserve penalties. Also, if you do play well and are winning you still don't deserve penalties, because you already have enough goals.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I get it, if you don't play well you don't deserve penalties. Also, if you do play well and are winning you still don't deserve penalties, because you already have enough goals.
No one is going to really take us seriously, so there is not point.
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
37,077
It's funny how often reality becomes altered when a point is trying to be made.

If we lose the scudetto by a non-penalty on the final matchday then perceptions would change, but in reality there are all as important.

It's not really about Pirlo's penalty or those in the Parma game, they weren't 100% penalties so on their own you can decide either way. It's the consistency of non-penalties for Juve over the season. Add a direct contrast with Milan and of course it becomes an issue, it's ok being moralistic about it but at some point when it happens over and over you have to say something, or it keeps on happening.

Donadoni can stick his Milanista view up his ass to be honest. I can find a dozen examples of Galliani blaming the referee after a game, and twice as many showing how Milan have benefited from soft penalties in the following games. That's the influence they have, as a big club with big fingers in every pie.

If we sit and be quiet every week we will continue to be turned over by officials, nothing is given in Italy without a word. The club can go about it in a classier way than ranting in a post match interview, but essentially you are saying the same thing; 'why are we not being treated equally?' If you are for inequality in sport then maybe silence is for you. Frankly, having followed Italian football for so long I'm sick of it. If you want to create tier systems in calcio then there is no reason why Milan should be alone at the top.
Great post.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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No one is going to really take us seriously, so there is not point.
Well, I'd like to win the league whilst not being given a penalty all season, with 25 against us, and us not saying a word until the season finishes, it's very poetic. If we do lose this title by a point or two then blame should be apportioned to the appropriate areas, officials are a small factor that can make all the difference. You can accept errors as they 'even themselves up', you can not accept consistent bias. We can only hold our hands up for things we are accountable for.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I think you are missing the point.
I get that refs have screwed us. We have all seen it.

Trying to put pressure on them is the last thing we need to be doing right now.

I mean seriously guys...what are you expecting to happen here?

Well, I'd like to win the league whilst not being given a penalty all season, with 25 against us, and us not saying a word until the season finishes, it's very poetic. If we do lose this title by a point or two then blame should be apportioned to the appropriate areas, officials are a small factor that can make all the difference. You can accept errors, you can not accept consistent bias. We can only hold our hands up for things we are accountable for.
Good luck proving bias in this country with this team with the shit history of the last 6 years while we are still fighting in courts to get what no one wants to give us.

Good luck.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
37,077
I get that refs have screwed us. We have all seen it.

Trying to put pressure on them is the last thing we need to be doing right now.

I mean seriously guys...what are you expecting to happen here?
The thing is, they are not doing it intentionally, they are just afraid of giving PKs to Juve. That's what we are complaining about.

I expect the refs to think twice before they decide not to blow the whistle in a penalty situation.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
The thing is, they are not doing it intentionally, they are just afraid of giving PKs to Juve. That's what we are complaining about.

I expect the refs to think twice before they decide not to blow the whistle in a penalty situation.
Then take it to Collina personally. Leave it out of a post-game frustration-venting press conference.
 

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