Antonio Conte (165 Viewers)

How would you rate Conte's (dis)appointment?

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Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I think he'll figure something out, maybe he's just trying to give Krasic confidence. I'll be surprised if he starts again next week.
I said that last week after Milan and he still started. :D

This is like watching Amauri & Motta all over again, it's painful. Sadly, Pepe who on paper is much weaker is crushing him. We need creativity. We need players that will start giving our strikers more dangerous final balls/crosses.
 

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May 4, 2004
11,622
He should have started a real 4-3-3 where the front 3 are given space to attack without having to play as a rightback for big part of the game! Start Pepe Matri Vucinic with a midfield of Vidal Pirlo Marchisio and we will crack defensiv teams such as Chievo.. OR play the 4-2-4 that you know! Give the wingers a very attacking role..

We had like 1 big chance to score today. The rest was bullshit.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
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Other than the Parma game, our team hasn't produced a significant amount of chances in any subsequent match. Today we only had two shots on goal - TWO!

Against Milan we scored two extremely lucky goals.

Against the other teams, we either scored none or scored 1. I think our problems haven't yet fully come to the surface because we've played shite opposition so far. Our next 5-6 games will be true tests and will decide our season. Too many draws/losses will prove to be fatal and our confidence will nosedive as with previous seasons and we'll be changing the entire lineup again next season.

Conte is doing well in the sense that he has made the team more hungry and aggressive, but our general play is too slow and predictable. His lineup today against Chievo was more than questionable and his insistence on keeping the same formation deep into the second half compounded his mistake. We need two strikers to stretch defence minded teams like Chievo.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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The goals will not come if we keep on playing Vucinic alone if you take into consideration the wingers we have. We should play 2 strikers every time we are facing a team that will play defence for 90 min.
And if we wants to make the 4-3-3 our permanent setup, we should get better wingers capable of scoring and beating their markers on one on one situations.
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
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Wow when will people see that having two strikers doesn't necessarily mean a better offense? In the 4-1-4-1 you have more players making runs into the box.
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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Wow when will people see that having two strikers doesn't necessarily mean a better offense? In the 4-1-4-1 you have more players making runs into the box.
3 man upfront needs better wingers, Vucinic is way too isolated, Marchisio and Vidal are not players that are known for their decisive passing or scoring, so we end up with one player upfront most of the time.
And Pirlo is way more dangerous in a 2 man MF, with this setup his way too deep and he's easy to press like this especially when both Marchi and Vidal are too far upfront, you could notice today that he played many long balls because he was pressed and didn't find someone to pass the ball to.
The 4-3-3 is good when you have capable wingers that can score, cut inside, create chances, not with the like of Pepe and Krasic. Or at least play Vucinic on the let Quag/Matri/Delpiero play upfront.
 

TrezJuve

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May 26, 2010
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3 man upfront needs better wingers, Vucinic is way too isolated, Marchisio and Vidal are not players that are known for their decisive passing or scoring, so we end up with one player upfront most of the time.
And Pirlo is way more dangerous in a 2 man MF, with this setup his way too deep and he's easy to press like this especially when both Marchi and Vidal are too far upfront, you could notice today that he played many long balls because he was pressed and didn't find someone to pass the ball to.
The 4-3-3 is good when you have capable wingers that can score, cut inside, create chances, not with the like of Pepe and Krasic. Or at least play Vucinic on the let Quag/Matri/Delpiero play upfront.
I completely agree. The role of wingers is more demanding offensively; it needs them to cut inside. Our wingers don't... In fact they hardly are helpful if at all. They are suppose to be in a more advanced role and they're not, so we happen in the end to be too crowded in midfield and less creative.

Also, spot on for Pirlo. I think he works better in a two man midfield because he's more involved as in everything passes through him (more than with 4-3-3; in fact, he looks he's playing for Milan with it). He also has more space to work with.
 

frick

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Apr 4, 2010
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I think there's no wrong in criticizing Conte, I like him a lot but he's not perfect. Nobody is for that matter.

Bashing is obviously not good, but Criticism is. In general, if you're not critical about what you do, you simply won't improve.
I was just pointing out the irony. Two matches with completely different tune we're singing to Conte.

My point is we shouldn't dismiss the single striker formation easily, right after two matches with mixed results. The players were having an off game, they lost possesion too many times and the passing wasn't so good, not to mention most of the crosses were coming from Licht particularly in the first half.

Similar thing happened with 4-2-4 in the Siena game so having two strikers doesn't neccesarily mean more goals. In both case, Juve desperately need great wingers.
 

MikeM

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Sep 21, 2008
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I can see Conte's reasoning really. We play the 4-1-4-1 and the other team has 1 shot in 90 minutes. If we could just scrape a fucking goal somehow. I understand why he is hesitant to change. FFS we had the ball the whole game. But I know he will figure something out.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,072
I feel much more confident in our game against Genoa this weekend. We've played very well at our new stadium so far and Genoa arent an overly defensive and negative team like Chievo. Should see a few more goals or at least goal scoring chances created.
 

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