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Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I realy can't stand our coach anymore. now we are in the second place and maybe it's above our expectations, well done,
but don't let it fool you. we are more likely to lose that place and struggle to maintain the last spot for the Champions League (we have Napoli, Lazio and Udinese behind out back). If someone still thinks we can win the Scudetto then please wake up.

I would be less upset if were losing points, but the coach does everything he can to help us win, a genuine effort . for me it seems that he doesn't care enough. what realy is important
for him is to keep giving playing minutes to the players he had faith in while nobody else had, just to show how genious he is and we don't have a clue about football.
Pepe is mediocre at best, and Giaccherini should be no more than a backup. Vucinic hasn't impressed me either, but the grand coach thinks he has "tactical qualities".
Instead of acknowledging the fact that is was a total nonsense to bring in that useless Borriello, he keeps on letting him play.
it's already hard enough for me to accept that Del Piero is being on bench, but if it was for Quagliarella or Matri I can understand because they both have shown to us that they can contribute.

and even if you did the mistake and started Borriello, why wait to the 80th minute to change? why be so stubborn? it can't be that he is satisfied from our performance in the last two months, or maybe he does?
I believe Elia has much more to give than what he is being credited for. sometimes we need an attacking talented player that can change the game. but maybe he doesn't know enough italian to understand the tactical instructions from our coach.:(

we can't score goals if our life depend on it against the weak teams of the Serie A. and it's been like that all year long (except 4-0 against Parma and 3-0 against Palermo, and maybe the 2-0 against Atalanta should be included too).

enough with hearing that we'r doing much better than previous seasons (which is true btw) so I can't complain . he had been given 80 million budget to new players and authority to even be a major part in selecting the players. he was seleted by Angelli in order to succed. if it was acceptable to fail again we could have stayed with Del Neri or Ferrara.

I hope I'm way off and going to be bashed here, but as I see it we'r going downhill.
His stubborness in trying to prove his tactical choices right is extremely frustrating. It's as though his coaching choices have become a personal battle against everyone to prove he knows what's best for the team, when clearly he doesn't of late.

When he was assigned I remember him clearly continually stating that Juventus is all about winning no matter what type of match it is. Now his attitude has evidently changed, rather, he's now satisfied in reminding us that we're doing much better than we did the last two seasons. Yes we are doing better, but that doesn't mean we're satisfied with how things are going. We can do much better than what we've been doing in recent weeks to return to winning ways and it's up to the coach to install this mentality into his team making the right tactical choices on the field to reflect this.

Conte is now at a crossroads and if he's not able to pick things up soon, then this season may turn into a complete and sadly familiar disaster.
 

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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
I don't like Conte but it's funny to see people here believe that not fielding Alex, Elia, Marrone, or fielding Padoin and Borriello is why we aren't winning. Our squad is simply not good enough, we have done an impressive job so far and even though I don't feel myself as attached to the team as I used to feel before, I have to say that we have to be proud to have an average team fighting for the Scudetto after consecutive seasons of failure.

Our board could have done a better job unfortunately but with a CL spot at the end of this season, we can hopefully bring in better players. Props to Conte and the players who have reminded us again how pleasant it is to be title contenders, and, to be hated.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
I don't like Conte but it's funny to see people here believe that not fielding Alex, Elia, Marrone, or fielding Padoin and Borriello is why we aren't winning. Our squad is simply not good enough, we have done an impressive job so far and even though I don't feel myself as attached to the team as I used to feel before, I have to say that we have to be proud to have an average team fighting for the Scudetto after consecutive seasons of failure.

Our board could have done a better job unfortunately but with a CL spot at the end of this season, we can hopefully bring in better players. Props to Conte and the players who have reminded us again how pleasant it is to be title contenders, and, to be hated.
:tup:
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
how is the squad not good enough if it was 1st/2nd for the majority of the season?
A squad which its saviors according to fans are supposed to be Alex (I love him but his absence isn't why we are dropping points), Elia or Marrone is not a good enough squad. If we are still in a Scudetto race today it's solely because our players have shown more than their potentials.

Difference between Marrone and Padoin, Borriello and Quag, Alex and Vucinic is not the difference between a title contender and an "only another team".

Ah women and their logic. :p

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Precisely!
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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Just as Inter's is quite shit even tough they had 6 or 7 games straight win streak.


Inter's squad according to you not good enough, Milan has glaring issues...then whose squad is so 'worthy'?

A squad which its saviors according to fans are supposed to be Alex (I love him but his absence isn't why we are dropping points), Elia or Marrone is not a good enough squad. If we are still in a Scudetto race today it's solely because our players have shown more than their potentials.

Difference between Marrone and Padoin, Borriello and Quag, Alex and Vucinic is not the difference between a title contender and an "only another team".
its not about them being saviors, it is about lack of utilization when things are not working out.

they have to be used first.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
I don't like Conte but it's funny to see people here believe that not fielding Alex, Elia, Marrone, or fielding Padoin and Borriello is why we aren't winning. Our squad is simply not good enough, we have done an impressive job so far and even though I don't feel myself as attached to the team as I used to feel before, I have to say that we have to be proud to have an average team fighting for the Scudetto after consecutive seasons of failure.

Our board could have done a better job unfortunately but with a CL spot at the end of this season, we can hopefully bring in better players. Props to Conte and the players who have reminded us again how pleasant it is to be title contenders, and, to be hated.
Oh c'mon its fairly obvious that fielding terrible players like Boriello and Padoin and leaving far superior players on the bench will affect results. You're pretty much saying that Boriello and Padoin are of equal or better quality than alternative options at Conte's disposal and that the only reason they're failing is because the squad doesn't seem as good as Milan's? If you start those players you mentioned, the standard of play would improve.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
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Tacchinardi: Where’s Del Piero?



Juventus boss Antonio Conte’s decisions about which attackers to use have been questioned by a former teammate.


The tactician has tried various solutions up front in his 4-3-3 and 3-5-2 systems, but only Alessandro Matri is delivering goals thanks to his 10 in 23 League games.


“I’m following Conte and I like him, but I don’t understand a few things,” ex-Juventus midfielder Alessio Tacchinardi told Radio Mana Mana.


“Why does he not completely trust Matri and why does he never give Alex DelPiero a go?


“Mirko Vucinic and Marco Borriello are doing little, so why isn’t Del Piero given a chance? I don’t get it.


“I get the feeling that Conte doesn’t see Del Piero in his 4-3-3. It’s a real shame to see Alex on the bench.”


Juve netted Roma striker Borriello on loan in January, but the ex-Milan man has struggled to make an impact with no goals in five League appearances.


“He’s a good player, but you need world class players up front,” Tacchinardicontinued. “If Juve thought he was going to be a player to change things then they made a mistake.


“His performances are a result of how the team is playing.”


Unbeaten Juve are two points behind leaders Milan after drawing five of their last six matches in Serie A.

http://www.football-italia.net/node/16475



 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Oh c'mon its fairly obvious that fielding terrible players like Boriello and Padoin and leaving far superior players on the bench will affect results. You're pretty much saying that Boriello and Padoin are of equal or better quality than alternative options at Conte's disposal and that the only reason they're failing is because the squad doesn't seem as good as Milan's? If you start those players you mentioned, the standard of play would improve.
Not at all. I'd personally love Conte to use Alex and Quag more in attack and I can never understand acquiring the likes of Padoin and Borriello. Our bench at times seems to be more quality than some of the starting players but the difference between them is not that much. Marrone is not far superior to Padoin, neither is Elia to Pepe. The squad as a whole is not quality enough.
 

JuveCampione

Senior Member
Sep 21, 2002
4,134
I don't like Conte but it's funny to see people here believe that not fielding Alex, Elia, Marrone, or fielding Padoin and Borriello is why we aren't winning. Our squad is simply not good enough, we have done an impressive job so far and even though I don't feel myself as attached to the team as I used to feel before, I have to say that we have to be proud to have an average team fighting for the Scudetto after consecutive seasons of failure.

Our board could have done a better job unfortunately but with a CL spot at the end of this season, we can hopefully bring in better players. Props to Conte and the players who have reminded us again how pleasant it is to be title contenders, and, to be hated.
I think Elia, Del Piero and even Marrone could have been used when things weren't going right and we needed a change during a game. Although I think starting with Borriello is a fatal error beacause I fail to see his attributes as a player, i tend to agree with you that that the players selection doesn't make a huge differnce. Against Chievo and Bologna, when it was clearly evident that the team is underperforming, earlier and useful substitutions (yes maybe Elia why not?) could have helped us clinch the victory. bringing in quagliarella as a lone striker and giaccherini after the 80th minute, is too little too late.

let's admit that during a football match, a coach doesn't have too much to do. he can wash the players at the half time break, or yell at them from the sidelines. maybe even change formations.
the 3 substitutions is one of the fewest tools as his disposal to change the game when it is ongoing. if he can't use them right, then it's big minus for him as coach.

I see that you'r taking for granted that we'll have CL next season. if there won't be any change in his way of thinking in the next few games, I'm not so confident we'll have CL next season.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Inter's squad according to you not good enough, Milan has glaring issues...then whose squad is so 'worthy'?


its not about them being saviors, it is about lack of utilization when things are not working out.

they have to be used first.
Milan have Ibra and with that alone they are contenders.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I don't like Conte but it's funny to see people here believe that not fielding Alex, Elia, Marrone, or fielding Padoin and Borriello is why we aren't winning. Our squad is simply not good enough, we have done an impressive job so far and even though I don't feel myself as attached to the team as I used to feel before, I have to say that we have to be proud to have an average team fighting for the Scudetto after consecutive seasons of failure.

Our board could have done a better job unfortunately but with a CL spot at the end of this season, we can hopefully bring in better players. Props to Conte and the players who have reminded us again how pleasant it is to be title contenders, and, to be hated.
wonderfull post

especially the cynical part :p
 

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