Antonio Conte (105 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

No need to panic just yet.

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Are we doomed?

If Conte leaves, yes.

Or if we leaves and we get a shit replacement, yeah.

 

[baggio]

Are we doomed?

Immediately speaking, yes we are. Good coaches, especially ones who have your club in their DNA are hard to come by. Conte is one such coach. Nobody on the peninsula is even close to him. The situation the club is in, means that it's highly unlikely we can attract a better coach than Conte at the moment. All options are likely to be one tier below Conte. This will also have a knock on effect on players who are loyal to Conte. Their performance and motivation is going to be affected. Eventually, long story short, the team has a much higher ceiling if Conte were to stay. If he leaves, a lot of the team's potential will be affected. Conte is the key reason for our success in the past 3 seasons, over and above all the other elements at the club and in the team.

 

[Vlad]

If Conte leaves, yes.

Or if we leaves and we get a shit replacement, yeah.

Nah, we'll be good. This team has solid foundations now. Montella seems to be leading the race and I can see L'Aeroplanino doing great job here. Conte was important, but not as much as some would like to believe.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Just as things were looking good... it never lasts huh? Thank goodness our domestic competition is chit, but say goodbye to hopes of being relevant in Europe.

I mean okay, Conte wasn't gonna be here forever. But we can surely attract better coaches than these bums. Why must they be Italian?

And don't say that it's just media talk, we know it will be one of the rumoured names.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Nah, we'll be good. This team has solid foundations now. Montella seems to be leading the race and I can see L'Aeroplanino doing great job here. Conte was important, but not as much as some would like to believe.

Montella is good because he plays the modern football, at least at Fiorentina. Only that gives me hope.

But seriously, if Mancini or Spalletti come we're doomed. Literally, not kidding.

 

[baggio]

Nah, we'll be good. This team has solid foundations now. Montella seems to be leading the race and I can see L'Aeroplanino doing great job here. Conte was important, but not as much as some would like to believe.

You're underestimating Conte's work here. It wasn't as easy as he made it look.

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Montella is good because he plays the modern football, at least at Fiorentina. Only that gives me hope.

But seriously, if Mancini or Spalletti come we're doomed. Literally, not kidding.

We'll be back to the Ranieri/Del Neri days of instability and lack of direction.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yes people seem to forget how shit we were before Conte arrived.

 

[ZoSo]

I doubt we'll win the league with any other coach, maybe some other top tier coach but not any replacement we will actually get.

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Yes people seem to forget how shit we were before Conte arrived.

No we're actually underperforming we should have won CL last season but only lost because Conte said the team isn't favourites and also should be winning CL this season.

 

[Vlad]

You're underestimating Conte's work here. It wasn't as easy as he made it look.

First season is all his. I can't see any other coach being able to win title in his first year, while the squad he was handed had been morally down for too long. He installed the right mentality and made the title challenge possible. This and last year it was combined effort.

 

[JCK]

Montella is good because he plays the modern football, at least at Fiorentina. Only that gives me hope.

But seriously, if Mancini or Spalletti come we're doomed. Literally, not kidding.

Everybody thought that Conte will play modern football, he did in the first season then slowly went back to classical Italian football.

 

[Vlad]

Yes people seem to forget how shit we were before Conte arrived.

But we were also great before Calciopolli, our history is illustrious one, so chances are we'll be great again, with or without Conte.

 

[jukazem]

One 'issue' we have with our team is that our best players are somewhat defensive minded and play in midfield. Atletico's best players are in attack. That makes a difference.

We bought Vidal for 2 cents, they bought Costa for 2 cents. Players like Costa and Arda win matches, titles...

Vidal is a beast, don't get me wrong. Best all round dmc in the world.

forwards wins matches, it's an idea the current Juve don't appreciate enough. you can see Tevez-Llorente record in CL and against other top on the table SerieA clubs this season. against Roma, Napoli, Inter and Fiorentina Tevez scored just once: penalty against Fiorentina, Llorente just once: far post tap-in against Napoli after a deflected shot. yet people think they are irreplaceable at Juve just because they are better than Quag and Matri.

another thing about center forwards that Prandelli said today that I agree with.

Q: None of the 7 attackers you picked is a center forward?
Prandelli "That's part of the change in football & I'm convinced of it or else I would've called Toni or Gilardino."

yet Juve thinks otherwise and pinning hopes with Llorente. Del Bosque gave him like 30mins in WC10 and Euro12 combined, would rather play 'false 9' than Llorente. Aragones didn't even take him to Euro08. Bilbao are doing better now without a targetman CF, Bilbao scored more goals this season than in any season in the last 10 years.

 

[baggio]

First season is all his. I can't see any other coach being able to win title in his first year, while the squad he was given had been morally down for too long. He installed the right mentality and made the title challenge possible. This and last year it was combined effort.

It's not that simple. That first season is the foundation for the next two. Ey aren't independent of each other, because it was through that first season he ingrained the mentality that has brought them here today. It is that first season that formed the core of the team and gave it belief and it is that first season that made the players realize how importantly they could express their football on the pitch. That first season on the back off two 7th place finishes was against the odds, and overcoming those odds is what brought the team to where it is today. So I disagree with how simplistic you make it seem.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

But we were also great before Calciopolli, our history is illustrious one, so chances are we'll be great again, with or without Conte.

Our resources and prestige isn't the same as then. Back then we could afford to make mistakes in coaches and players because the rest of the tean would carry them. And we could afford one or two unsuccessful seasons - now it would be disastrous. We can only get back there with continued success.

 

[JuveJay]

Yes people seem to forget how shit we were before Conte arrived.

I think their point is that now we're not, so there isn't that immediate need for a potential new coach to be a miracle worker, at least domestically.

 

[baggio]

But we were also great before Calciopolli, our history is illustrious one, so chances are we'll be great again, with or without Conte.

Eventually, we'll win something again, thru trial and error. But don't just make it seem like its that easy for a club to win easily if they close one winning chapter. The team will have to be reconstructed, with a certain mentality, and it's going to have to go thru a certain type of situation go through that metamorphosis, if Conte leaves.

 

[j0ker]

But we were also great before Calciopolli, our history is illustrious one, so chances are we'll be great again, with or without Conte.

I doubt anyone would have taken us up so fast like Conte did, after those miserable years. I will be thankful to him for that forever. What he did in these 3 seasons in Serie A is epic.

But now, if he is to leave we wouldn't miss him so much because as you said we have a solid foundation.

 

[baggio]

I think their point is that now we're not, so there isn't that immediate need for a potential new coach to be a miracle worker, at least domestically.

There might be, domestically even more so, for the simple reason that the core is going to have zero motivation and be mentally fatigued after 3 amazing scudettos.

 

[JuveJay]

There might be, domestically even more so, for the simple reason that the core is going to have zero motivation and be mentally fatigued after 3 amazing scudettos.

This team doesn't need miracles to win domestically, let's be serious. No matter who our coach is next season we'll start as favourites, but of course that does not mean we will automatically win.

If we are talking about potentially a new coach and/or system then there is plenty of motivation, we have to raise our level to be able to compete in Europe, you don't switch it on and off depending on domestic or continental competition. That was our biggest problem this season.