Angelo Ogbonna (4 Viewers)

[GordoDeCentral]

So did Chiellini.

My point isn't that Caceres is world class, just that he's been our 2nd best defender and due to that he probably deserves to start.

chiellini is by far 2nd best, but thats not saying much either.

 

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[PedroFlu]

It just shows how our defenders are overrated (except for Barzagli).

Those guys are sooo slow. All of them, except Caceres. Maybe Conte is just afraind of playing a back 4 because they are so slow...

We definitely could use a quicker and more explosive CB.

 

[Trequartista]

I like Caceres at RB, he should be Lichtsteiner's sub next year once we sell Isla and switch to a back four.

 

[jakku7]

Caceres is not a CB. He's good enough to be Licht's replacement for RB.

The only one that fit 3 man defense is Bonucci. The rest would be better of in a 4 man backline imo.

And that's why as a RB he made blunders which cost us dearly in CL.

 

[Ocelot]

And that's why as a RB he made blunders which cost us dearly in CL.

He was playing for pretty much the first time in moths, he only made one blunder, for that one Conte specicially told him to pass back, and he had a pretty good crossed assist a couple of minutes later.

 

[LiquidPLP]

It just shows how our defenders are overrated (except for Barzagli).

Those guys are sooo slow. All of them, except Caceres. Maybe Conte is just afraind of playing a back 4 because they are so slow...

We definitely could use a quicker and more explosive CB.

Definitely. Barzagli and Chiellni aren't that bad but bonbon and Ogbonna are definitely too slow.

I like Caceres at RB, he should be Lichtsteiner's sub next year once we sell Isla and switch to a back four.

And that's why as a RB he made blunders which cost us dearly in CL.

Chiellini's cost us too. We played 4 man back line first time since ages. You could see our players were a bit uncomfortable because they had different habits. Especially the defenders.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Il Tempo says that Lazio wants him. Their alternative is Astori.

 

[Ahmed]

they can go choke on a dick.

Ogbonna just needs time, he will come good.

 

[jakku7]

He was playing for pretty much the first time in moths, he only made one blunder, for that one Conte specicially told him to pass back, and he had a pretty good crossed assist a couple of minutes later.

He made one blunder which cost us a goal, but it doesn't mean it was his only one mistake in that game. He was very shaky in first half and the most dangerous situations to score Real had because of him. But this is not the most important thing, because - as you mentioned above, we can shift the responsibility onto Conte as well. Maybe he wasn't ready and Conte put him in the lineup too quickly after that car accident?

But, the problem is that Caceres is prone to make blunders sometimes, just like Bonucci, but to a lesser extent. He is just not good enough to play as a starter RB for us, because offensively he is very limited too. He can cross nice, but he can't run with the ball like Lichtsteiner, he isn't aggresive enough in attack, he doesn't have any idea how to dribble. That's why he should not be our first pick for right back.

 

[Dostoevsky]

they can go choke on a dick.

Ogbonna just needs time, he will come good.

I think all is coming out because we want Lulic.

Quag will most likely go there.

 

[Ahmed]

not such a big fan of Lulic but if we can get him while fucking off Quag then Marotta would be a freakin' genius.

 

[Dostoevsky]

not such a big fan of Lulic but if we can get him while fucking off Quag then Marotta would be a freakin' genius.

It would be a good movie (especially if Quag leaves), as Lulic can cover a couple of positions. Nice back up.

 

[Ocelot]

He made one blunder which cost us a goal, but it doesn't mean it was his only one mistake in that game. He was very shaky in first half and the most dangerous situations to score Real had because of him. But this is not the most important thing, because - as you mentioned above, we can shift the responsibility onto Conte as well. Maybe he wasn't ready and Conte put him in the lineup too quickly after that car accident?

But, the problem is that Caceres is prone to make blunders sometimes, just like Bonucci, but to a lesser extent. He is just not good enough to play as a starter RB for us, because offensively he is very limited too. He can cross nice, but he can't run with the ball like Lichtsteiner, he isn't aggresive enough in attack, he doesn't have any idea how to dribble. That's why he should not be our first pick for right back.

I mostly agree with your second paragraph. As a right back he is fine, but does not offer that much going forward. He can cross decently, but can't dribble and his offensive runs are just not good enough.

As a CB or RCB he just isn't really up to the task positioning wise. He's a good back-up, but not fit to start.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Any cheap experienced italian CB > 15m young promising CB, i said it from the start

 

[Bianconero81]

 

[MikeM]

This thread is filled with probably the most egregious overreactions on this board.

 

[Ahmed]

Any cheap experienced italian CB > 15m young promising CB, i said it from the start

we used to do that with Fresi, Zanchi, Stendardo types and it always used to bite us in the ass.

 

[Ocelot]

Oh come on now everyone, he is decent at LCB and RCB, he's just not suited to play in Bonuccis role in the center.

 

[Hydde]

but he was fukin expensive for what he offers, which is an average bench dude at most. He is slightly better than Peluso and Isla,

 

[Mus™]

but he was fukin expensive for what he offers, which is an average bench dude at most. He is slightly better than Peluso and Isla,

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