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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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Also look at this screenshot. Isn't Chiesa supposed to be the RWB in this situation, covering Young? Look at our 3 musketeers' positioning as well: Bentancur, Rabiot and Ramsey. Ramsey's should be covering for Frabotta more, and you'd expect Rabiot or Bentancur to be a little more active in the box especially with incoming Vidal.
No, we defend in the box with 4 defenders. Danilo-Bonucci-Chiellini-Frabotta.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
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Goes back to the point of Pirlo asking too much from the players in terms of their role and shoehorning people into positions that don't suit them. It was obvious before we signed Chiesa that he isn't suited the the defensive side of RWB.
That's also just as true, he is trying to fit too many square pegs into round holes which is clearly working against him so far.

For starters he should perhaps begin with adapting and moulding himself more towards the squad available to him at any given time instead, simply play key players in roles that they can fully take advantage of their strengths in and find a formation that best fits the overall roster at your disposal rather than insisting on one specific philosophy or formation that is obviously making the team look as unbalanced as we've seen it lately.
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
1,243
Sarri at the start was promising, but later turned out flop. I understand him a bit, with that kind of midfield you cant play like you want because opponents play their game in the middle. Matuidi, pjanic and benta and rabiot was our top midfield in sarri' era. Allegri started with a lot of bad luck, every game 20 shots and no goal, but at least it was promising. And now under pirlo everithing looks like shit, there is not even one optimistic thing about it. Bad games and bad resaults. Thank god we dont play in england, we would be relegated.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,089
The biggest problem with Pirlo is that he seems either unable to fix or unaware of our massive problems: players completely out of tactical shape and structure in the defensive phase. This team has had 9 years of success by being compact. We are so far from compact at the moment. The gaps between midfield and defence are basically canyons, when one midfielder pushes up the other one needs to drop back and cover. Instead we see our players pushing into a stacked final third, passing the ball aimlessly against a structured opponent, losing the ball and then getting totally exposed on the counter because we have pushed players up with no real structure.

It is so crystal clear that none of the players on the pitch understand what their role and responsibilities are. Our LB is a LM. Our RB is a CB. Our AM is LM. Our RM is a RW. It only gets more confusing when the subs are brought in and we have Bernardeschi playing as a LWB... it’s no surprise we’re performing like clowns.

Something else has to stop as well: this high press. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen, we concede far more opportunities than we create by insisting on this pressure up the park, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times we’ve recovered the ball from it but I see 5-6 examples every game of where we are passed out of it and this exposes an already fragile back line. It’s got to stop. We do not have the personnel or the structure and organisation to apply it. Stop it. Stop it now. When we lose the ball we should press for 10 seconds around the ball carrier with the nearest two players. The rest of the team should drop and get into a solid structure to mean any beating of the initial press doesn’t result in a goal or a clear cut opportunity.

The success of all football teams depends on their control of central midfield. We need to stack it and Ramsey is not suitable. Arthur is our only midfielder capable of holding off pressure. He needs to be put in the Regista role. McKennie should be RCM and Rabiot should be LCM but with structured attacking. If one goes forward, the other drops. We need to be between the lines of our opponents.

So many issues and let’s face it, we’ve seen no improvement or hint of that throughout Pirlo’s tenure
 
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juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
15,315
The biggest problem with Pirlo is that he seems either unable to or unaware of our massive problems: players completely out of shape and structure in the defensive phase. This team has had 9 years of success by being compact. We are so far from compact at the moment. The gaps between midfield and defence are basically canyons, when one midfielder pushes up the other one needs to drop back and cover. Instead we see our players pushing into a stacked final third, passing the ball aimlessly against a structured opponent, losing the ball and then getting totally exposes on the counter because we have pushed players up with no real structure.

It is so crystal clear that none of the players on the pitch understand what their role and responsibilities are. Our LB is a LM. Our RB is a CB. Our AM is LM. Our RM is a RW. It only gets more confusing when the subs are brought in and we have Bernardeschi playing as a LWB... it’s no surprise we’re performing like clowns.

Something else has to stipe as well: this high press. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen, we concede far more opportunities than we create by insisting on this pressure up the park, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times we’ve recovered the ball from it but I see 5-6 examples every game of where we are passed out of it and expose an already fragile back line. It’s got to stop. We do not have the personnel or the structure to apply it. Stop it. Stop it now. When we lose the ball we should press for 10 seconds around the ball carrier with the nearest two players. The rest of the team should drop

The success of all football teams depends on their control of central midfield. We need to stack it, and Ramsey is not suitable. Arthur is our only midfielder capable of holding off pressure. He needs to be put in the Regista role. McKennie should be RCM and Rabiot should be LCM but with structure attacking. If one goes forward, the other drops. We need to be between the lines of our opponents.

So many issues and let’s face it, we’ve seen no improvement or hint of that throughout Pirlo’s tenure
Wow these things were not part of Pirlo's thesis but unfortunately Agnelli has to take the blame appointing Pirlo U23 coach then suddenly making him the coach of the first team
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
31,783
The biggest problem with Pirlo is that he seems either unable to or unaware of our massive problems: players completely out of shape and structure in the defensive phase. This team has had 9 years of success by being compact. We are so far from compact at the moment. The gaps between midfield and defence are basically canyons, when one midfielder pushes up the other one needs to drop back and cover. Instead we see our players pushing into a stacked final third, passing the ball aimlessly against a structured opponent, losing the ball and then getting totally exposes on the counter because we have pushed players up with no real structure.

It is so crystal clear that none of the players on the pitch understand what their role and responsibilities are. Our LB is a LM. Our RB is a CB. Our AM is LM. Our RM is a RW. It only gets more confusing when the subs are brought in and we have Bernardeschi playing as a LWB... it’s no surprise we’re performing like clowns.

Something else has to stipe as well: this high press. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen, we concede far more opportunities than we create by insisting on this pressure up the park, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times we’ve recovered the ball from it but I see 5-6 examples every game of where we are passed out of it and expose an already fragile back line. It’s got to stop. We do not have the personnel or the structure to apply it. Stop it. Stop it now. When we lose the ball we should press for 10 seconds around the ball carrier with the nearest two players. The rest of the team should drop

The success of all football teams depends on their control of central midfield. We need to stack it, and Ramsey is not suitable. Arthur is our only midfielder capable of holding off pressure. He needs to be put in the Regista role. McKennie should be RCM and Rabiot should be LCM but with structure attacking. If one goes forward, the other drops. We need to be between the lines of our opponents.

So many issues and let’s face it, we’ve seen no improvement or hint of that throughout Pirlo’s tenure
 

Snobist

DareDevil
Apr 16, 2017
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Also look at this screenshot. Isn't Chiesa supposed to be the RWB in this situation, covering Young? Look at our 3 musketeers' positioning as well: Bentancur, Rabiot and Ramsey. Ramsey's should be covering for Frabotta more, and you'd expect Rabiot or Bentancur to be a little more active in the box especially with incoming Vidal.
I don't want to blame anyone in this particular situation. Vidal is very good at scoring with his head, especially coming from midfielder. Defenders usually take care of strikers. Perfect jump, perfect shot from Vidal. He is awesome, wish he was with us.
 

DAiDEViL

Senior Member
Feb 21, 2015
62,568
Yeah it is, still had to post it tho
What is it supposed to say?

"Look a, is a not a so bad a. Was a just as bad under Allegri and we still won a."

That is stupid. Allegri was an actual coach and there was legit hope for him to turn it around. Pirlo so far gives no indication whatsoever to make a decent coach anytime soon. Hopeless.

Comparison is off. Attention seeking bunch.
 

Dominic

Senior Member
Jan 30, 2004
16,692
The biggest problem with Pirlo is that he seems either unable to or unaware of our massive problems: players completely out of shape and structure in the defensive phase. This team has had 9 years of success by being compact. We are so far from compact at the moment. The gaps between midfield and defence are basically canyons, when one midfielder pushes up the other one needs to drop back and cover. Instead we see our players pushing into a stacked final third, passing the ball aimlessly against a structured opponent, losing the ball and then getting totally exposes on the counter because we have pushed players up with no real structure.

It is so crystal clear that none of the players on the pitch understand what their role and responsibilities are. Our LB is a LM. Our RB is a CB. Our AM is LM. Our RM is a RW. It only gets more confusing when the subs are brought in and we have Bernardeschi playing as a LWB... it’s no surprise we’re performing like clowns.

Something else has to stipe as well: this high press. It’s the worst thing I’ve ever seen, we concede far more opportunities than we create by insisting on this pressure up the park, I can count on 1 hand the amount of times we’ve recovered the ball from it but I see 5-6 examples every game of where we are passed out of it and expose an already fragile back line. It’s got to stop. We do not have the personnel or the structure to apply it. Stop it. Stop it now. When we lose the ball we should press for 10 seconds around the ball carrier with the nearest two players. The rest of the team should drop

The success of all football teams depends on their control of central midfield. We need to stack it, and Ramsey is not suitable. Arthur is our only midfielder capable of holding off pressure. He needs to be put in the Regista role. McKennie should be RCM and Rabiot should be LCM but with structure attacking. If one goes forward, the other drops. We need to be between the lines of our opponents.

So many issues and let’s face it, we’ve seen no improvement or hint of that throughout Pirlo’s tenure
 

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