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K.O.

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Nov 24, 2005
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If Pirlo style when he was a player transmits into his coaching, I suspect we're going to focus on strengthening the full backs depth. They will be pumping up and down the field and will certainly need squad rotation.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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One thing I'm hoping is Pirlo not giving in to his senior 'buddies' ' wishes.

I mean for example Chiellini is nearly done and considering De Ligt's lengthy layoff, I'd be hoping Demiral gets the nod and starts more games.

It remains to be seen if he'd end up being an authoritative figure or just another puppet controlled by the senior players/figures at the club.
I don't think that'll be the case. Agnelli wouldn't have promoted him if he told him his starting XI and vision are Pirlo and friends.

Right now, other than how he'll communicate with players, I'm mostly curious about what formation he'll play. He said he likes 433, but before that, said depends on players at disposal ( :tup: ). 433 with us has to be the same 433-442 hybrid (not a fan, lacks fluidity during transitions for obvious reasons). Only other formations that suit Ronaldo and Dybala are 4312, regular 442, and 352 (all with someone from midfield making runs into the box).

Other things re system like style, organization and interpretation of space together are more important than formation (don't think he'll be gung ho bc, again, Agnelli wouldn't have hired him), but you've to get the formation just right with Ron and Dybala, and rest of our mercato depends on that. He won't make the mistake of trying Ronaldo as #9 first like Allegri and Sarri.
 
Apr 29, 2006
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I feel its a safe bet. Pirlo would teach our midfielders to think a few steps ahead and most of them need it. If Tonali arrives with Arthur this summer we would have a midfield full of players that should be molded in the next few years and Pirlo is the guy to go to.

I don't expect another Zidane and we may even lose the next scudetto. I am fine with that as long as I see mass rejuvenation of the squad and a clear pattern of play on which we improve weekly.

IMHO Sarri was fired, because he lost the squad. Apart from Paulo - and we may own his upturn of form on being questioned as an indispensable player the season prior.
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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This one is for the fans. Agnelli gave us the passion to love the club again. At least I am.

I wanted him to be our coach for a long time but is this too soon? I want to belive that Agnelli will provide him with all the support he needs to success.
Like how Agnelli got rid of Del Piero, Marchisio, Marotta, raised ticket prices?

If you think Agnelli is about passion and not 100% pragmatism, you're very mistaken.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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The one thing that gives me a sense of hope is that this was an Agnelli hire.

Del Neri- Marotta
Conte-Agnelli
Allegri-Agnelli
Sarri- Paratici/Nedved
Pirlo-Agnelli
Agnelli is just as responsible for Sarri, if not more. He wanted a coach who was going to play attractive football to expand our global brand. He might've dreamed of or planned for Guardiola or Zidane but that was extremely foolish if it was the case. Sarri was the next best thing on paper, based on what he did with Napoli. Sarri is on Agnelli.

If Agnelli is the architect on Pirlo then he better hope this one pays off, or else he should leave technical decisions to someone else.
 
Jun 16, 2020
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I was wondering if he’d like to play 41212

Ronaldo - Dybala
Kulusevski
Arthur ————— Bentancur
Tonali/Locatelli​

So many questions

We could aswel add Zaniolo and move Kulu or Zaniolo to the midfield
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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One thing I noticed is that most of the current top coaches (Allegri, Zidane, Conte, even Pep) were all midfielders. The best CMs always have a 360 vision (eyes in the back of their head) and it allows them to see ahead of everyone else. Pirlo is one of those CMs so hopefully there is a reason why the top coaches are CMs and Pirlo can hopefully join them in being a top coach.

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Andrea Pirlo will earn €1.8m/yr + bonuses. (GdS) For reference.. Sarri was at around 6M€/yr, Allegri 7.5M€ (2018-19) and Conte at Inter is 12M€
Already saving money. Agnelli is savage as fuck.
 

juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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One thing I noticed is that most of the current top coaches (Allegri, Zidane, Conte, even Pep) were all midfielders. The best CMs always have a 360 vision (eyes in the back of their head) and it allows them to see ahead of everyone else. Pirlo is one of those CMs so hopefully there is a reason why the top coaches are CMs and Pirlo can hopefully join them in being a top coach.

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Already saving money. Agnelli is savage as fuck.
I don't know what Ronaldo must be thinking about this situation
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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If we plan on doing a full rebuild, I'm all in. If it is going to continue to be a practice of putting more lipstick on the pig, then there was no point in doing this.

We have a young coach, surround him with players that looked to him as a reference point in their careers. The dude is as cool as the day is long.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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Agnelli is just as responsible for Sarri, if not more. He wanted a coach who was going to play attractive football to expand our global brand. He might've dreamed of or planned for Guardiola or Zidane but that was extremely foolish if it was the case. Sarri was the next best thing on paper, based on what he did with Napoli. Sarri is on Agnelli.

If Agnelli is the architect on Pirlo then he better hope this one pays off, or else he should leave technical decisions to someone else.
That’s not entirely accurate. He may have wanted a more progressive style of play but that doesn’t mean he wanted Sarri.

Fabio and Nedved attempted to follow that strategy and laid out an agenda which was flawed from the start by warring with Max. When reality set in and we learned that they created the divide and fired max who Agnelli was fond and bring (unviable) Sarri as the only available option then what other choice does he have?

The final decision may be his but not his first choice since he wasn’t presented any options by his subordinates.
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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I don't know what Ronaldo must be thinking about this situation

He's probably thinking what some of us are already thinking. We are moving on to the next phase. Rebuilding. And it is certainly his right to want to leave, if that is the case. Take that money, invest in young players, and save a ton of money on salary.

I'm all in for a full rebuild, but that is what it HAS to be. A full rebuild.

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Agnelli is just as responsible for Sarri, if not more. He wanted a coach who was going to play attractive football to expand our global brand. He might've dreamed of or planned for Guardiola or Zidane but that was extremely foolish if it was the case. Sarri was the next best thing on paper, based on what he did with Napoli. Sarri is on Agnelli.

If Agnelli is the architect on Pirlo then he better hope this one pays off, or else he should leave technical decisions to someone else.
At the end of the day, he has the final say. However, you would be hard pressed to convince me that this is the guy he wanted.

Far from it.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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He's probably thinking what some of us are already thinking. We are moving on to the next phase. Rebuilding. And it is certainly his right to want to leave, if that is the case. Take that money, invest in young players, and save a ton of money on salary.

I'm all in for a full rebuild, but that is what it HAS to be. A full rebuild.
Rebuild is clearly the name of the game.

If anyone wants to leave then that’s their choice really. It’s better for the club to not have folks that aren’t onboard with the direction and roadmap
 

KB824

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Sep 16, 2003
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Rebuild is clearly the name of the game.

If anyone wants to leave then that’s their choice really. It’s better for the club to not have folks that aren’t onboard with the direction and roadmap

We can't keep adding a player here and there and hoping that we catch lightning in a bottle for the Champions League. That already happened 2 years ago and it didn't work. We shot our load with CR7, and it didn't happen. Very well. You move on to the next phase.

Better to do it a year too early than a year too late, because history shows that you never fully recover if it is a year too late.


Which is why, to me, Paratici is VITAL in this regard. He needs to be left to do what he does best, and that is to get the best young talents out there.

Experience means nothing if you are being handily outplayed, outcoached, and quite frankly, run off the pitch by a 7th place Ligue 1 squad in the Champions League
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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Would love to know what he's done or said that's convinced Agnelli that he's ready. I'm hoping they know something we don't and it's just a matter of Agnelli take a chance. Although it's completely insane and I'm totally against Italian managers I don't think there could of been a more interesting appointment. Pirlo has a different kind of character and has an air of mystery. I just fucking hope it pays off.
 

sgjuveboy

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Oct 31, 2012
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If we plan on doing a full rebuild, I'm all in. If it is going to continue to be a practice of putting more lipstick on the pig, then there was no point in doing this.

We have a young coach, surround him with players that looked to him as a reference point in their careers. The dude is as cool as the day is long.
Yes to be frank I would like to see Buffon chiellini and maybe even cuadrado play the role of mentors from bench next season, and allow young talents to join the team and play games.
 

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