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JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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Mine is

Allegri >> Inzaghi> Gasperini> Zidane> De Zerbi> My Grandma>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Pirlo

I have no idea why I don’t rate Zidane so highly it’s not about skill, I dunno there’s just something about him and Serie a that doesn’t fit.... I have no idea what..
Zidane's coaching career in Serie A has not been that impressive. Gasperini is obviously a better option
 

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Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
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To be fair to Pirlo, the job was too appealing and nobody would refuse such an offer. Its like going from frog dissection in Biology class to senior surgeon skipping the medical degree in between. This was expected and you would've thought that there was a contingency plan somewhere from management but clearly there isn't, that worries me more because the next appointment could be just as incredible. Pirlo can't manage but is that really that shocking? Its shocking that he's still here.
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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To be fair to Pirlo, the job was too appealing and nobody would refuse such an offer. Its like going from frog dissection in Biology class to senior surgeon skipping the medical degree in between. This was expected and you would've thought that there was a contingency plan somewhere from management but clearly there isn't, that worries me more because the next appointment could be just as incredible. Pirlo can't manage but is that really that shocking? Its shocking that he's still here.
Exactly where the biggest mistake was made; that's not something sane people do... And no director will allow that to happen either. But Sarri was a failure of an appointment as well.
 

K.O.

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Nov 24, 2005
13,883
99% Bayern fans under Kovac

Its normal if you have a donkey in charge, our 5-1 defeat to Frankfurt meant Kovac got sacked and we won the treble

Some defeats are neccesary on the longer run
Luckily, it was the start to mid of the season and Bayern was almost guaranteed to reach a UCL spot at least. In our case, it would be incredibly stupid for a Juve fan to wish for a loss now. We could slip way behind and lose our UCL qualification.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Jan 16, 2013
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Luckily, it was the start to mid of the season and Bayern was almost guaranteed to reach a UCL spot at least. In our case, it would be incredibly stupid for a Juve fan to wish for a loss now. We could slip way behind and lose our UCL qualification.
It’s incredibly stupid to waste our time watching this eye bleeding horror we call a team yet we do it. Wishing things to change isn’t.

If that’s what it takes for Agnelli to grow some balls, let Napoli have their way. I don’t fucking care. Fire the damn incompetent clowns and save this sinking ship, starting with our wannabe coach.
 

BayernFan

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Feb 17, 2016
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In other words, the Bayern management didn't trust the promising long-term project with Kovac and went for a pathetic shot-term treble. What a bunch of short-sighted clowns :hihi:.
Haha I see what you did there.

Well Kovac is a fine coach but he's not suited for a club of Bayerns stature and size with the following expectations. Maybe it's the same with Pirlo and Juventus.

At least Kovac had coaching experience, Pirlo had none.


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Luckily, it was the start to mid of the season and Bayern was almost guaranteed to reach a UCL spot at least. In our case, it would be incredibly stupid for a Juve fan to wish for a loss now. We could slip way behind and lose our UCL qualification.
Of course.

I'm also not saying you should sack Pirlo by all means. I'm explaining why it can be somehow "normal" to hope for a sacking of the coach if you gave him enough time and it didn't become better at any point.
 

DS8_Montero

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Aug 10, 2018
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Haha I see what you did there.

Well Kovac is a fine coach but he's not suited for a club of Bayerns stature and size with the following expectations. Maybe it's the same with Pirlo and Juventus.

At least Kovac had coaching experience, Pirlo had none.
Bayern did what a top club should do in a situation like that, and it paid off :tup:. The same happened when RM put Zidane in charge for the first time. Unfortunately, the current Juventus management don't have skills and mentality this club deserve and used to have at the top level.
 

Mokku

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Apr 17, 2019
2,722
Exactly where the biggest mistake was made; that's not something sane people do... And no director will allow that to happen either. But Sarri was a failure of an appointment as well.
True, the problem we face now is that its very late to sack a manager and expect the next guy to save us and get us into CL because if we lose to Napoli, the pressure will be huge for us to win every remaining game. Also, I understand the Sarri experiment although Sarri didn't help himself but we got him to make us play like his Napoli and that's not possible with our midfield and no wingers last season, much more likely this season with Kulusevski and Chiesa but the guy didn't last.

You can spend millions on players that flop and that is forgivable, you can sell your stars if you need to save the club financially in the long run, you can't do both of these consistently as well as chop managers all at once and magically win the CL. This is poor planning of the highest order.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
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I have no effing clue why some people want Gasperini here. He's been fired like three or four times from clubs ranging from Inter to Palermo. At Inter he only lasted about 4 months because he lost to multiple shit sides like Novara. :lol: Atalanta is much different than Juve so this would be a similar move to hiring Pirlo as far as I'm concerned, if not worse because he's an "older" Italian manager. I don't really care how Atalanta is currently playing, he won't change shit here.
 

DeviAngel

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Oct 3, 2014
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Pirlo will be sacked in case of a defeat to Napoli. Agnelli has his eyes on Allegri but the dream is Zidane. [SportMediaset]

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I have no effing clue why some people want Gasperini here. He's been fired like three or four times from clubs ranging from Inter to Palermo. At Inter he only lasted about 4 months because he lost to multiple shit sides like Novara. :lol: Atalanta is much different than Juve so this would be a similar move to hiring Pirlo as far as I'm concerned, if not worse because he's an "older" Italian manager. I don't really care how Atalanta is currently playing, he won't change shit here.
Can’t blame him for his failure at Inter but at the same time when I think better you are right. It was similar situation to ours. He has no players that would fit in his 343 plus he never ever tried to change formation or tactics
 

Robee

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Jun 21, 2011
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True, the problem we face now is that its very late to sack a manager and expect the next guy to save us and get us into CL because if we lose to Napoli, the pressure will be huge for us to win every remaining game. Also, I understand the Sarri experiment although Sarri didn't help himself but we got him to make us play like his Napoli and that's not possible with our midfield and no wingers last season, much more likely this season with Kulusevski and Chiesa but the guy didn't last.

You can spend millions on players that flop and that is forgivable, you can sell your stars if you need to save the club financially in the long run, you can't do both of these consistently as well as chop managers all at once and magically win the CL. This is poor planning of the highest order.
That is another huge mistake, idd. Same goes for this season as Pirlo's football -if there already is such a thing- needs ball players all over the field and of course especially in midfield. The Dybala-Ronaldo combination also remains a conundrum for anyone here.

You can only play some kind of boring football with this squad. The moment we wanted that to change, we needed a complete overhaul. And that was in complete contrast to the "winning-now-project" with Ronnie. There are so many different directions being chosen all at once, it's insane. Your last alinea is spot on imo.
 

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