Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (82 Viewers)

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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@Ahmed; you should have a read up on some of the things Gianni Agnelli was up to at 36 years old ;)
Yea. But Gianni probably partied like a star, not a frat boy looking to get laid on a sidewalk. Totally agree with Ahmed. No class. No style. No charisma. Just a momma's boy whose having to project that he's all grown up. Lapo Elkann is more Gianni Agnelli than Andrea if anything.
 

Fake Melo

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Sep 3, 2010
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Yea. But Gianni probably partied like a star, not a frat boy looking to get laid on a sidewalk. Totally agree with Ahmed. No class. No style. No charisma. Just a momma's boy whose having to project that he's all grown up. Lapo Elkann is more Gianni Agnelli than Andrea if anything.
This just doesn't make sense. Lapo Elkann, the coke sniffing tranny banger is more Gianni Agnelli than Andrea? I think you should read more about Gianni.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Andrea is not president material. He belongs in a classroom, as part of an undergrad program. :D

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This just doesn't make sense. Lapo Elkann, the coke sniffing tranny banger is more Gianni Agnelli than Andrea? I think you should read more about Gianni.
That's my whole point. Being all those things, Lapo is still more man than Andrea who just strikes me like a trust fund baby.
 

Raz

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Nov 20, 2005
12,218
Yeah, if this is the result of his managing, let him manage his trust fund for as long as possible.

Forza Agnelli, forza not being classy enough to snort coke on his jet plane but going out to drink with the fans.

Awesome presidente!
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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@Melo: What is with you, Andrea and Marrotta? You look like you want to form a triad with them. Just saying it like it is. Those pics are thoroughly unclassy. And Lapo is more man than Andrea. Not that we need to make a comparison, but it looks pretty damn uncharismatic when you see a 36 year old president who can't hold his drinks. Sheikh Mansour is a trust fund baby too, but look at how he conducts himself. What you don't realise is, that being a president of the club means representing it in every way and form. There is a large amount of social responsibility that you carry in that position. And whether that means you have to keep up appearances, then you should. Its in the interest of the club so people always take you seriously and treat you that way. That's what I feel anyway. It's bad enough he looks the way he does, but shit like this is just going to make him a laughing stock.
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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It's ridiculous criticism to ask the President of your club to behave appropriately so he doesn't become laughing stock around Europe?? I just fail to see how Andrea and Marrotta get so much credit for deliveri this scudetto. Off the 3, its pretty evident Conte is the one who knows most about this club and what it stands for. And the best decision Andrea made was to hire Antonio after the ultras chanted his name.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I think Juve fans have to be thankful that this man's leading the club and trying to get Juve back to the place they truly deserve.

I might well be wrong but I think he sacrificed his image a whole lot with the way he handled Alex' issue. I personally never thought the announcement was unplanned or amateurishly handled. IMO, it was more like a gamble Agnelli took; don't forget that Juve were still far from title contenders when he announced Alex' retirement and it could have ended really bad for him if Juve hadn't had a wonderful season resulting in a long-awaited Scudetto. I believe it was a mutual agreement between the board and the coach. At this moment I'm willing to take back my word that it was something personal going against Ale. They knew/know that Del Piero was still better than almost every attacker Juve have at the moment but they decided that the time had come to take a very hard and painful but necessary step. With the new big star imminent signing, the endless comparisons with Alex could be too much to handle for a new player who, even at normal circumstances, would have a hard time adapting himself to the new environment. The pressure of taking a legend's place and wearing his jersey could be devastating. Fans will constantly compare the new star to Del Piero. With Del Piero still in the team, even if on the bench, it might have gotten out of control. Alex has to leave because he's loved, not in a bitterly jealous fashion, but because fans are ruthless when judging new players, especially when the new player is brought to take their idol's place.
Vucinic, a 15m signing, didn't have this problem because noone expected him to be nearly as good as even an old Del Piero but a +35m signing will be someone whom the club will have vastly invested on, if he doesn't live up to the expectations, it'll risk the club's money.

Alex was surely never going to make a fuss about it and the board had certainly counted on the fact that he's a classy player who wouldn't upset the dressing room and the stands. You can't see the board clearing the matters up regarding Del Piero either simply because they can't tell the fans that they are why the club has to make this difficult decision. It's my explanation of what's happened, could be wrong but makes sense most to me now that the whole thing is over.

It's Juve, the team you've been fans of for years, least you can do is to assume that the board's intentions are rational and try to choose the best and strongest interpretation possible.
I agree with what you're saying. But the next big signing will always be a failure. We're better off investing in young players with tremendous potential. Paying 35+ millions for a player now will make the pressure unbearable. It is much better to look for players who might become "the new Del Piero" in time, because even Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi couldn't fill the man's boots right now. If they do sign a big star, they should do everything to present him as part of a Juventus project, not as the new big man.
 

Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
It's ridiculous criticism to ask the President of your club to behave appropriately so he doesn't become laughing stock around Europe?? I just fail to see how Andrea and Marrotta get so much credit for deliveri this scudetto. Off the 3, its pretty evident Conte is the one who knows most about this club and what it stands for. And the best decision Andrea made was to hire Antonio after the ultras chanted his name.
Is the Europe still laughing? The laugh wave so far didn't reach the Eastern Europe, I will keep you posted on how the events unfold when the laughter reaches us.
 

JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I just fail to see how Andrea and Marrotta get so much credit for deliveri this scudetto.
What a surprise.

And before you get ready to type 'no surprise either from the Marotta / board lackey' (again), have a stop and think who has the problem here.

Your personal pride and axe to grind is making you type nonsense.
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Did Conte force himself into becoming Juventus' coach without Agnelli's and Marotta's concern?

I was against their selection of Conte, but boy am I not happy to be proven wrong. Was it a lucky guess? Could be or could be not. There's no shame in being wrong though, especially on such things about football.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
People finding stuff to moan about after one of the most successful seasons in Juve history are just sad, sad people. As someone said before, they try to find a jubilation party and go take a shit right in the middle of it. They're sad and want other people to be as sad as them.

Forza Andrea Agnelli.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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Did Conte force himself into becoming Juventus' coach without Agnelli's and Marotta's concern?

I was against their selection of Conte, but boy am I not happy to be proven wrong. Was it a lucky guess? Could be or could be not. There's no shame in being wrong though, especially on such things about football.
was an extremely fortunate calculated gamble.
 

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