Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (66 Viewers)

[Osman]

Yes I agree, there is not much need to be too negative, despite our disastrous season and how horribly we been managed. I'm hopeful, even if I wouldnt sadly be suprised if they took the easy route and just settled with mediocrity yet again.

 

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[Lo-Pan]

someone who doesn't know what Bettega did for Juve is surely the moron of the decade.

I used to hate teeth, but then i realized, that despite his consistently antagonistic stance, he actually KNEW and LOVED Juve...so I stopped playing with him. You are a different creature altogether, Ahmed, or whatever the fuck your name is...Nothing of value whatsoever, just a virtually trolling dick...less educated and objective than my 9 year old nephew. Solely arguing for the sake of arguing...and this is the last time i will explain to you, how english, as a language, works.

If I say to you 'what has mr X done since returning to our ranks', its means 'what has mr X done since returning to our ranks'...so responding to that, with words of what Bettega has done in the past, only serves to make you seem like a goblin. Because you are expanding the debate, according to fit your own ignorance...

Why don't you just quit whilst you are behind???

and as a piece of added advice, give this a listen, and maybe, i doubt it, but just maybe, you will learn something,...

 

[Ahmed]

I used to hate teeth, but then i realized, that despite his consistently antagonistic stance, he actually KNEW and LOVED Juve...so I stopped playing with him. You are a different creature altogether, Ahmed, or whatever the fuck your name is...Nothing of value whatsoever, just a virtually trolling dick...less educated and objective than my 9 year old nephew. Solely arguing for the sake of arguing...and this is the last time i will explain to you, how english, as a language, works.

If I say to you 'what has mr X done since returning to our ranks', its means 'what has mr X done since returning to our ranks'...so responding to that, with words of what Bettega has done in the past, only serves to make you seem like a goblin. Because you are expanding the debate, according to fit your own ignorance...

Why don't you just quit whilst you are behind???

and as a piece of added advice, give this a listen, and maybe, i doubt it, but just maybe, you will learn something,...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndw5ihLAekA

the guy knows Juventus from top to bottom, has been a legendary player, and a loyal servant in management...that counts for something in my book.

as for this season, it was crucially damaged even before Bettega got in there, and seeing his track record, he has nothing to prove to anyone, especially retarded inbreds like you.

 

[Lo-Pan]

the guy knows Juventus from top to bottom, has been a legendary player, and a loyal servant in management...that counts for something in my book.

as for this season, it was crucially damaged even before Bettega got in there, and seeing his track record, he has nothing to prove to anyone, especially retarded inbreds like you.

Still, Ahmed, you have not managed to confront the question I originally put to you...which was this: what has bettega done for us since returning to the Juve ranks?

as for your abortive attempts to insult me...from your photo alone, before even alligning it with your words, its for sure, that you are a pathetic individual, who finds 'life' and 'value' solely online. So...if despite this, you fancy locking horns, sorry but not loins, then give me a bell when you are arriving at tullamarine airport, and I would be ever so happy to meet you, then eat you, then shit you out, and eat you again!!! hohoohohohohohoohohho!!!

This wild bravado, ONLINE, truly affords you the moniker of Capitano FUCK...and Juventus as a whole, as a tradition, as a club, as a piece of hitory, is clearly worse, for your inviolvement and attachment. Because you are more interested in how your online persona is felt and reacted to, than you are interested in the future and present of the club, that the majority of juventini adore and breathe..

as someone messaged me on here, to tell me, the last time we duelled,
'he is a fucking troll...as everyone on here knows, other than the abortions who value his support...ignore him'...

 

[Lo-Pan]

P.SSSSS...one more song for my beloved ahmed...

 

[white_rabbit]

I don't know why everybody is fumed over the bettega deal. If we get marotta then what will be the role of bettega? if there is a place for him then everyone should be furious otherwise keeping him just for the sake of keeping him is ridiculous.

also, no one said or even hinted that he will be fired. only that with the proposed new management he will probably not have a role and from that everybody concluded that he will be fired.

on the other point: he didn't do much since he came back because he wasn't allowed to. for me it is obvious now that blanc brought him just to cool off the furious fans.

 

[Ahmed]

Still, Ahmed, you have not managed to confront the question I originally put to you...which was this: what has bettega done for us since returning to the Juve ranks?

as for your abortive attempts to insult me...from your photo alone, before even alligning it with your words, its for sure, that you are a pathetic individual, who finds 'life' and 'value' solely online. So...if despite this, you fancy locking horns, sorry but not loins, then give me a bell when you are arriving at tullamarine airport, and I would be ever so happy to meet you, then eat you, then shit you out, and eat you again!!! hohoohohohohohoohohho!!!

This wild bravado, ONLINE, truly affords you the moniker of Capitano FUCK...and Juventus as a whole, as a tradition, as a club, as a piece of hitory, is clearly worse, for your inviolvement and attachment. Because you are more interested in how your online persona is felt and reacted to, than you are interested in the future and present of the club, that the majority of juventini adore and breathe..

as someone messaged me on here, to tell me, the last time we duelled,
'he is a fucking troll...as everyone on here knows, other than the abortions who value his support...ignore him'...

so years of service are completely invalid due to a bad few months, is it? if you realistically expect someone to step in halfway into a badly damaged season and make a success out of it, then you must be fuckin' retarded, especially as it is not a role that will directly affect the performances on the pitch.

as for the rest, yeah, we can definitely see who's trying ever so hard to be the 'tough' guy here...the more bile you spew the better really, only proves how much of a cunt you really are.

 

[Lo-Pan]

so years of service are completely invalid due to a bad few months, is it? if you realistically expect someone to step in halfway into a badly damaged season and make a success out of it, then you must be fuckin' retarded, especially as it is not a role that will directly affect the performances on the pitch.

as for the rest, yeah, we can definitely see who's trying ever so hard to be the 'tough' guy here...the more bile you spew the better really, only proves how much of a cunt you really are.

again, you have dodged my question, as in , what had bettega done since returning?'.


I don't need to act tough, Ahmed...as you may have gathered, I am far from a philanthropist...and so I actually take joy in the thought of culling a little kid, in a deformed man's body, who wants to do nothing with his existence other than stir the cauldron of animosity...

I had hoped that by showing you some decent music, your puerile ball beating would subside, but alas, i was wrong, my friend...for your desire for exposure is far and beyond your sense of integrity.

I do not see it as trying to be tough by giving you my nearest airport and telling you I will happily cull you, shit you out, then eat that shit...to me, thats a silly joke...but to you...its words of war.

So...rather than continue this battle of words you likely don't even understand, I will instead, offer you an olive branch, to the troll of all trolls, the drinker of cum, the fluffer of marchisio, to make peace...to allign ourselves as one and the same, of the same army, the same heart, the same club.


Because you simply cannot play with me, in my tongue. So its pointless to continue...so let's burn our bridges, lets throw the troll into the river, and lets focus our combined energies onto the positive future of the club I love...

one last song...to help you with your faltering english...

 

[Vinman]

c'mon guys, enough is enough with the personal attacks.....

 

[Alen]

@thegutterpoet,

I don't know, I have no bloody idea actually, what has been going on in Juve's headquarters, and I know that we can judge our directors only by what we see, but I really think it's rather naive to judge someone like Bettega the way you're doing here.

I will say that you actually might be right and he didn't do anything worthy at all, but I won't exclude the possibility that there was nothing he could do at all in these 5 months. If the winter transfer budget was 0 eur, then you can't expect him to buy players in the middle of the season and make us stronger, just like it was tough to expect from anyone to find a great coach during the winter if we didn't have the resources to pay what that coach was asking for.
Maybe we did have money, but he fucked it up. Maybe, we don't know. But just as much we don't know if it was actually the other way around.

What I'm saying is that 5 months in which all we had is the winter mercato is waaaaay too little to judge anyone.
Bettega has a history in Juve as a board member though, and it's a successful one, so I'm leaning towards Ahmed's opinion that the guy actually knows his job well, but some other, very strong, factors prevented him from changing anything at all in this short period.

 

[Lo-Pan]

@thegutterpoet,

I don't know, I have no bloody idea actually, what has been going on in Juve's headquarters, and I know that we can judge our directors only by what we see, but I really think it's rather naive to judge someone like Bettega the way you're doing here.

I will say that you actually might be right and he didn't do anything worthy at all, but I won't exclude the possibility that there was nothing he could do at all in these 5 months. If the winter transfer budget was 0 eur, then you can't expect him to buy players in the middle of the season and make us stronger, just like it was tough to expect from anyone to find a great coach during the winter if we didn't have the resources to pay what that coach was asking for.
Maybe we did have money, but he fucked it up. Maybe, we don't know. But just as much we don't know if it was actually the other way around.

What I'm saying is that 5 months in which all we had is the winter mercato is waaaaay too little to judge anyone.
Bettega has a history in Juve as a board member though, and it's a successful one, so I'm leaning towards Ahmed's opinion that the guy actually knows his job well, but some other, very strong, factors prevented him from changing anything at all in this short period.

If you have noted, Alen...i have not once expressed a desire to debate anything other than 'what Bettega has done since returning to the fold'...I have not once suggested that I agree he should be culled, nor once criticized what he has done, because as I have asked, several times, I do not actually know what he was employed to do, and therefore how successful he has been in that role...so basing your stance on an imaginary attack by me, on Bettega, is ridiculous, for such an attack does not exist...So...unless you have the intelligence to understand that I have no idea whatsoever what Bettega's job involves, then its as stupid as Ahmed, assuming I am attacking Bettega, to attack, or even contest what I say...when I am saying...'what are the paid duties of Bettega'...does that make sense to you???so side with the pathetic ahmed, if you please, but I beg of you, at least understand that he is arguining against contest of his imagination, not of reaLITY...for I have neither a desire to see Bettega leave, nor any reason whatsoever to assume he is to be sacked...

its pitiful, and irritating, that one of the few members whom I consider both Aware and Mature, chooses to enter such a conflict, on the side of a boisterous, spineless pigfucker, who makes up the arguments of his opponent, then reacts accordingly, mouse chest puffed out, fingers ready to stroke the bell-end of anyone who joins him...

 

[Alen]

If you have noted, Alen...i have not once expressed a desire to debate anything other than 'what Bettega has done since returning to the fold'...I have not once suggested that I agree he should be culled, nor once criticized what he has done, because as I have asked, several times, I do not actually know what he was employed to do, and therefore how successful he has been in that role...so basing your stance on an imaginary attack by me, on Bettega, is ridiculous, for such an attack does not exist...So...unless you have the intelligence to understand that I have no idea whatsoever what Bettega's job involves, then its as stupid as Ahmed, assuming I am attacking Bettega, to attack, or even contest what I say...when I am saying...'what are the paid duties of Bettega'...does that make sense to you???so side with the pathetic ahmed, if you please, but I beg of you, at least understand that he is arguining against contest of his imagination, not of reaLITY...for I have neither a desire to see Bettega leave, nor any reason whatsoever to assume he is to be sacked...

its pitiful, and irritating, that one of the few members whom I consider both Aware and Mature, chooses to enter such a conflict, on the side of a boisterous, spineless pigfucker, who makes up the arguments of his opponent, then reacts accordingly, mouse chest puffed out, fingers ready to stroke the bell-end of anyone who joins him...

Oh, sorry. I obviously misunderstood you.

What was his job indeed?
Either we are really uninformed or someone wants the fans to be uninformed, or even the Juve hierarchy is sooo lost that they have no idea what they're doing and things are out of their hands for a long time now.
Judging by what's happening on and off the pitch, I'd even say that no-one knows what to do and everything went to hell.

We can only hope now for a strong personality to take things in his own hands. We will need luck for that because I doubt these people can find such personality. Especially since that will mean that they'll be gone asap.

 

[Lo-Pan]

Oh, sorry. I obviously misunderstood you.

What was his job indeed?
Either we are really uninformed or someone wants the fans to be uninformed, or even the Juve hierarchy is sooo lost that they have no idea what they're doing and things are out of their hands for a long time now.
Judging by what's happening on and off the pitch, I'd even say that no-one knows what to do and everything went to hell.

We can only hope now for a strong personality to take things in his own hands. We will need luck for that because I doubt these people can find such personality. Especially since that will mean that they'll be gone asap.

THANKYOU, ALen...for responding with the same maturity and awareness that makes me always value your posts on here, when very easily, you could have responded a la Ahmed, as in puerile impotence. So, sincerely, I truly appreciate you taking on board what I wrote and sending in response, ultra reasonable, ultra useful words...

And I do not know what he has been doing...other than being an ex player and ex director who was amazing for us in the past, and was brought to the club when we were entering the mire , with the hope of his mere presence lifting the squad and club as a whole, out of the shit swamp and back into the limelight...

 

[juve103423]

thegutterpoet: I find it quite funny reading your posts in this thread. You are trying so hard to sound intelligent, using a complicated level of english and so on.
I dont question your intelligence, as it takes some exercise and creativity, to write the way you do - but not alone are you insulting Ahmed, who also attacks you, but also Alen, as he misunderstood your point and you then refers to his intelligence etc..

My point is, why dont you just find another forum to speak in, where people are intelligent enough to understand you - or why are you not intelligent enough to just adjust to the target group which is Juventuz.com, so people understand you ?

If you dont understand me though, it is probably due to my bad english

 

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[Osman]

Who's the one on the bike, red shirt. Is it Eduardo Agnelli? The one who died?

 

[Ahmed]

@ Guttermouth


unless your name is Andrea Agnelli, then I don't know from where the fuck you got the idea that I was attacking you...you were the one who mentioned my post in your quote, not the other way round...so please go work the streets with your mom, and get fucked.

 

[Hust]

We need to take this argument to Marchisio's thread and give each other some man love.

 

[Salvatore]

Who's the one on the bike, red shirt. Is it Eduardo Agnelli? The one who died?

Looks like Lapo.

 

[Osman]

Looks like Lapo.

I know it does due to facial traits, but more specifically also Gianni, but it cant be Lapo because he isnt older then Andrea, in fact Andrea is 1 year older. Asked Eduardo because he was older plus also looked like that, his great fathers face.