Respectfully, I don't want to cause you chagrin but I doubt he's losing sleep over it...
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Andrea "Il Bruco Brutto" Agnelli (50 Viewers)
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The Jj plan was based on recognising we'd continue to fall further behind EPL teams, PSG, BAYERN and Madrid financially because Italy refused to modernise even after seeing how well it worked for us.
So the plan was to maximise prestige and profile of Juventus itself. Part of that was to mould it into a lifestyle brand and not just a football team and on the pitch to finally win the Champions League again, which was AA's real dreama. Super League was also a way to drop the calcio baggage and grow our wallet.
The logo was made more like a fashion brand and not a football crest, and we signed Mr Champions League for 100m, which also then directly raised our profile. The logo thing bailed because regardless of how it looks it's still a football logo and football fans are far too partisan. Signing Ronaldo wrecked the team and the ideology it was based on.
What we should have done is focused on being a football team, and market us along the lines of the Juve DNA: grinta and fino alla fine. Rappers make platinum records talking about rags to riches through sheer hard work: that angle sells ffs. We're not a luxury club we're one that wins not even because we have the best team on paper, but because we work harder than the other guy.
It shouldn't have been about polo shirts to wear in overpriced nightclubs to celebrate success, it should have been gym gear, work suits etc. Stuff you wear while you're hard at work pushing yourself to the limit in pursuit of victory. Ronaldo ironically is the embodiment of this attitude but the management was actually doing the polo shirt thing instead of soberly keeping their noses to the grindstone and dropped the ball big time.
Only now do we look like getting back to where we should on the pitch, but we're doing it in a way that has captured the essence of the club. When we win the Champions League this cycle it will be with the Jj logo, fulfilling AA's dream but doing it the right way not the misguided half-baked scheme he cooked up. We will win it not by celebrating or by being premium but by hard work and refusing to give up. Until the end.
So the plan was to maximise prestige and profile of Juventus itself. Part of that was to mould it into a lifestyle brand and not just a football team and on the pitch to finally win the Champions League again, which was AA's real dreama. Super League was also a way to drop the calcio baggage and grow our wallet.
The logo was made more like a fashion brand and not a football crest, and we signed Mr Champions League for 100m, which also then directly raised our profile. The logo thing bailed because regardless of how it looks it's still a football logo and football fans are far too partisan. Signing Ronaldo wrecked the team and the ideology it was based on.
What we should have done is focused on being a football team, and market us along the lines of the Juve DNA: grinta and fino alla fine. Rappers make platinum records talking about rags to riches through sheer hard work: that angle sells ffs. We're not a luxury club we're one that wins not even because we have the best team on paper, but because we work harder than the other guy.
It shouldn't have been about polo shirts to wear in overpriced nightclubs to celebrate success, it should have been gym gear, work suits etc. Stuff you wear while you're hard at work pushing yourself to the limit in pursuit of victory. Ronaldo ironically is the embodiment of this attitude but the management was actually doing the polo shirt thing instead of soberly keeping their noses to the grindstone and dropped the ball big time.
Only now do we look like getting back to where we should on the pitch, but we're doing it in a way that has captured the essence of the club. When we win the Champions League this cycle it will be with the Jj logo, fulfilling AA's dream but doing it the right way not the misguided half-baked scheme he cooked up. We will win it not by celebrating or by being premium but by hard work and refusing to give up. Until the end.
He also stood up for the club and was vocal about the two titles, the bias against us and he made decisions which led to us dominating calcio for a decade.
I'm not writing a comprehensive autobiography, I wrote a forum post on one issue. Don't troll by bringing up one thing I didn't mention. You gonna do that in every thread? Somebody talmbout Dusan's goal yesterday and you gonna say 'Don't forget to mention the other one he scored....'.
I'm not writing a comprehensive autobiography, I wrote a forum post on one issue. Don't troll by bringing up one thing I didn't mention. You gonna do that in every thread? Somebody talmbout Dusan's goal yesterday and you gonna say 'Don't forget to mention the other one he scored....'.
Someone got out of bed with the wrong foot. Sorry to add the convo. Didn't read the rules of your post.
You could've just answered; yes he did many things well for the club too. Wasn't talking about it that.
But about that one issue; the hard work is not in Gen Z's minds anymore. They want champagne football. Their minds are clouded by City, Barca, Spain... And it can be seen by the comments in this forum as well; just look at which players are liked and which aren't as much. You don't see many popular players in the mold of Gattuso or Chiellini anymore.
You could've just answered; yes he did many things well for the club too. Wasn't talking about it that.
But about that one issue; the hard work is not in Gen Z's minds anymore. They want champagne football. Their minds are clouded by City, Barca, Spain... And it can be seen by the comments in this forum as well; just look at which players are liked and which aren't as much. You don't see many popular players in the mold of Gattuso or Chiellini anymore.
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this fucking country 
can't believe it's a 21st century democratic country and at the same time a full on banana republic
agnelli should sue everyone involved in this, including journalists who used any kind of illegally obtained information
can't believe it's a 21st century democratic country and at the same time a full on banana republicagnelli should sue everyone involved in this, including journalists who used any kind of illegally obtained information
giraudo is still fighting against the calciopoli rulings. in march, the italian civil system (lazio court) couldn't rule on the case, so as far as i remember, giraudo's lawyers turned to the european court of justice and are trying to get a ruling stating that the italian sports justice system isn't compatible with the european law. that wouldn't be without precedent, since last december the european court already judged that the international skating union (yes lol) had incompatible rules with the european law. so similarly to the bosman case that basically transformed the transfer market, we could potentially see an administrative revolution of the flawed italian system
didn't read too much about arrivabene's case. but according to some lawyers and journalists, giraudo's case can actually lead to some reforms. and if the system was flawed, then the rulings might have been flawed too
didn't read too much about arrivabene's case. but according to some lawyers and journalists, giraudo's case can actually lead to some reforms. and if the system was flawed, then the rulings might have been flawed too
