Inter Milan, Juve and Milan all had billionaire owners pump money into them back in the day. Can't complain when the shoe is on the other foot just because it doesn't suit us.
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There is absolutely no way these English clubs will rejoin this joke of a competition (which after 5 years would be incredibly boring) because the British media and government absolutely tore the proposal to pieces.
The time is now right to admit defeat and admit that this was just a terribly though out and excecuted philosophy based on the gut feel of some of the most disconnected members of society you could possibly get.
I’m hoping we are right about the legal position though, as if not this will be a real hammer blow to our club that will be difficult to recover from
The time is now right to admit defeat and admit that this was just a terribly though out and excecuted philosophy based on the gut feel of some of the most disconnected members of society you could possibly get.
I’m hoping we are right about the legal position though, as if not this will be a real hammer blow to our club that will be difficult to recover from
But what’s there to win?
Even if we have a strong case, we need all the other founding clubs to create the SL, and they all leaved as soon as possible.
Right now it feels like Agnelli is losing precious time and prestige, go and help this club out of the horrible situation we’re in at this very moment instead of getting yourself into legal problems.
Even if we have a strong case, we need all the other founding clubs to create the SL, and they all leaved as soon as possible.
Right now it feels like Agnelli is losing precious time and prestige, go and help this club out of the horrible situation we’re in at this very moment instead of getting yourself into legal problems.
Financial freedom is at stake. The lack of which is strangling Juventus / RM / Barca.
Some of the clubs that left ESL can return (Atetico, Milan, Inter). As for the rest, from all those EPL sides only Manchester Utd and Liverpool have significant historical value. The rest are replaceable by nowadays second tier sides with big history, they will be quickly transformed into formidable forces exactly like it happened to clubs like Man City and Chelsea when they surfaced from oblivion. Invite Ajax, Benfica, Monaco, etc., give them hundreds of millions, and they will become top clubs in several years. Exactly as it happened to PSG and other nouveaux riches. Money is all it takes, and ESL will offer loads of it.
P.S. Sorry, posted it in the wrong thread initially, moved the original post here.
Some of the clubs that left ESL can return (Atetico, Milan, Inter). As for the rest, from all those EPL sides only Manchester Utd and Liverpool have significant historical value. The rest are replaceable by nowadays second tier sides with big history, they will be quickly transformed into formidable forces exactly like it happened to clubs like Man City and Chelsea when they surfaced from oblivion. Invite Ajax, Benfica, Monaco, etc., give them hundreds of millions, and they will become top clubs in several years. Exactly as it happened to PSG and other nouveaux riches. Money is all it takes, and ESL will offer loads of it.
P.S. Sorry, posted it in the wrong thread initially, moved the original post here.
I have no issue with the rewards - the issue, which in my eyes anyone with any concept of sporting merit will understand is that it is elitist and exclusive.
not sure if you’ve been a Juve fan for very long at all but the most beautiful triumph I’ve ever experienced is the first serie a title after our demotion. Earned on merit, not because we were called Juventus.
There is absolutely no fascination in a competition that involves the same teams year in year out, it completely misses the point. Footballs attempt at F1 and it spectacularly failed as it should have done
not sure if you’ve been a Juve fan for very long at all but the most beautiful triumph I’ve ever experienced is the first serie a title after our demotion. Earned on merit, not because we were called Juventus.
There is absolutely no fascination in a competition that involves the same teams year in year out, it completely misses the point. Footballs attempt at F1 and it spectacularly failed as it should have done
There is a very real possibility Juventus FC S.p.A. could recall that FIGC owe them ~400m for calciopoli and they dropped the case only because the old fart from FIGC begged them to in order to save Italian football. This is why we are talking about things on the horizon, in theory it is what could happen and it should not be excluded.
Exactly. AA needs to get his head of his arse and focus on Juve which is on the verge of sporting and financial disaster (missing out on CL). Someone made a series of wrong decisions that led to this. I don't mean here losing the title - it can happen, natural thing in sports. We have much bigger problems to deal with than lost scudetto though...
Hire a proper coach already. Trim down the wage bill, most high-earners in this team don't pull their weight anyway. Replace those with more hungry, possibly younger players and build a fucking team, because at the moment we have NONE.
Increasing revenue is not the only way to make the club sustainable - cash not spend on overpaid 'stars' is the cash that you have in your pocket. It's laughable that players like De Paul and Locatelli would be sure starters here and still somehow they're not. Turns out the solutions were there in the first place but the management made the wrong moves. More cash spent doesn't mean a better team. We have a couple of examples in Serie A alone to prove that point.
Make your own bed before you go out to change the world. Besides, Juve is not a law firm but a football club. Get back to basics instead of losing time and energy on a dead project.
Hire a proper coach already. Trim down the wage bill, most high-earners in this team don't pull their weight anyway. Replace those with more hungry, possibly younger players and build a fucking team, because at the moment we have NONE.
Increasing revenue is not the only way to make the club sustainable - cash not spend on overpaid 'stars' is the cash that you have in your pocket. It's laughable that players like De Paul and Locatelli would be sure starters here and still somehow they're not. Turns out the solutions were there in the first place but the management made the wrong moves. More cash spent doesn't mean a better team. We have a couple of examples in Serie A alone to prove that point.
Make your own bed before you go out to change the world. Besides, Juve is not a law firm but a football club. Get back to basics instead of losing time and energy on a dead project.
Bayern won 9th BL in a row, Juve hired a rookie coach otherwise we would have walked to 10th in a row. In Spain, its either Barca or Real, occasionaly clubs like Atletico break through... In the CL there are always 7-8 top teams participating and the last time an obsolute outsider won the competition was few decades ago... So Im not really sure what exactly would have changed for worse in terms of competitivity with ESL, except having more frequently big sides encountering one another.
No one watches CL because of teams like Krasnodar, Dinamo or Nordsjallend, they are just unnecessary nuisance, with all due respect to them. CL is already an elitist competition where small sides have virtually zero chance to compete with heavy weights. The revenue distribution system is based on the size of their domestic market since this dictates the price of broadcasting rights. Therefore clubs from England, Italy, Spain and Germany will always get lion's share of revenue, which creates bigger and bigger gap...
No one watches CL because of teams like Krasnodar, Dinamo or Nordsjallend, they are just unnecessary nuisance, with all due respect to them. CL is already an elitist competition where small sides have virtually zero chance to compete with heavy weights. The revenue distribution system is based on the size of their domestic market since this dictates the price of broadcasting rights. Therefore clubs from England, Italy, Spain and Germany will always get lion's share of revenue, which creates bigger and bigger gap...
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And here you mention domestic leagues being uncompetitive. How much more uncompetitive do you think they would be if 4-6 teams in that league were earning 40x more than all of the others. It would be unwatchable, it kills the spectacle.
The CL - nothing really is wrong with it, I’d love for Juventus to win it, it’s the pinnacle and it’s earned. I have no issue watching Juve play Trabzonspor - I’m a Juventus fan and a football fan, I’d watch Juventus play Dagenham and Redbridge. Elitism is the absolute worst thing in any sport, that’s why the younger generation are losing interest, because the same big clubs are there all the time. You say the small teams have no chance at the moment - that’s utterly incorrect, they have a chance however small that is - you are asking that they never get a chance ever again. Sport is about underdogs, that’s when the best stories are written. Everyone remembers the underdog triumphs.
It was a shit concept and it’s been flushed down the toilet which is the exact way it needed to be dealt with. Agnelli has never had to earn anything in his life considering he was born with it all so it’s no surprise he’s peddling the same thing for this club
The CL - nothing really is wrong with it, I’d love for Juventus to win it, it’s the pinnacle and it’s earned. I have no issue watching Juve play Trabzonspor - I’m a Juventus fan and a football fan, I’d watch Juventus play Dagenham and Redbridge. Elitism is the absolute worst thing in any sport, that’s why the younger generation are losing interest, because the same big clubs are there all the time. You say the small teams have no chance at the moment - that’s utterly incorrect, they have a chance however small that is - you are asking that they never get a chance ever again. Sport is about underdogs, that’s when the best stories are written. Everyone remembers the underdog triumphs.
It was a shit concept and it’s been flushed down the toilet which is the exact way it needed to be dealt with. Agnelli has never had to earn anything in his life considering he was born with it all so it’s no surprise he’s peddling the same thing for this club
