Atalanta - Valencia 4:1
Lyon (another small team) - Juventus 1:0
Great timing, btw
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Lyon (another small team) - Juventus 1:0
Great timing, btw
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the main thing he said was about Roma, the Atalanta thing is news to me, but maybe the quotes I read wasnt covering all of his statement, just some highlights...
Anyway, he`s playing politics, its not a good statement regarding Atalanta, Im sure he knows that, probably expects a reaction or wants more serious discussions and action towards a format change or whatever he is after, we`ll see in the future...
And if anything, Atalanta is amongst the most likeable and enjoyable teams in Europe, without a doubt, their road is admirable, started with 3 losses and still qualified, thrashed a more experienced Spanish side, their place is absolutely in the 1/4 finals, deservedly so... And they are the best team in Serie A after the top 3, so they will deserve their place in CL next season too...
Anyway, he`s playing politics, its not a good statement regarding Atalanta, Im sure he knows that, probably expects a reaction or wants more serious discussions and action towards a format change or whatever he is after, we`ll see in the future...
And if anything, Atalanta is amongst the most likeable and enjoyable teams in Europe, without a doubt, their road is admirable, started with 3 losses and still qualified, thrashed a more experienced Spanish side, their place is absolutely in the 1/4 finals, deservedly so... And they are the best team in Serie A after the top 3, so they will deserve their place in CL next season too...
Tbh it doesn't really make any difference. If it were the other way around, why would Ajax and the like benefit from playing in weak leagues while Atalanta is penalized for playing in the stronger one? Atalanta is about to qualify for QF and deservedly so, while Ajax, Benfica, Porto and Celtic are not even close (Porto and Celtic weren't good enough to win against Krasnodar and CFR Cluj, Benfica finished 3rd after Leipzig and Lyon, Ajax finished 3rd after Valencia and Chelsea that were afterwards destroyed by Atalanta and Bayern). The current system is balanced well enough to not question its core logic - unless someone has some hidden (or not so hidden) agenda, of course.
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What a moronic thing to say. All neutral fans love a good undersog success story and that statement is a great way to turn them against us. Of course, the media are going to pounce on it and take it out of context. What else can tou expect from a man who relaces Allegri with Sarri. I am not surprised the family don't let him get involved with the real business.
Yes, thats what I saw just now, he mentioned Celtic not that long ago in similar context and he is not wrong, a UCL winner in a very small pond, his point is not wrong, there are historically meaningful clubs in smaller championships/leagues who has to go through series of qualifications just to get their place in Group stages, Ajax was like 55 seconds away from a CL final last year and they started in what, round 2 of qualifications?!? And they have twice the gold medals that Juve has, they are an important club, yet they have to play 6 games just to enter group stages while Getafe for example may luck its way into 4th place in Spain and go straight to group stages...
A change in the rules where a team who qualifies for the CL throught his final position in their domestic league is judged by his all time coefficient, contribution, history, whatever they call it in order to be placed in group stages, playoffs, round whatever in qualification is actually not that outrageous statement, Ajax, a multiple CL winner should get a place directly in the groups, even if they finish 3rd in Eredivisie, there is many ways a man can look at that, one is that smaller clubs from the top leagues have advantage for just playing in a top league and have a good season, opposite one is that a club from the smaller league should always have this dream to play in the best tournament with the best clubs on Earth and by giving advantage of the more historically important ones there wont be a place for them, and thus ending chances for a fairytale scenarios like the Finland/Bosnia/Albania/Malta/Ireland/Whatever champion defeating the odds and winning the playoff for the group stages...
Every way has its pros and cons, kinda sad that the one CL is going is basically saying Fuck you poor clubs from poor countries, we dont want you here - but if thats how the richest one feel, why not just sit down and create the Super League for themselves?
A change in the rules where a team who qualifies for the CL throught his final position in their domestic league is judged by his all time coefficient, contribution, history, whatever they call it in order to be placed in group stages, playoffs, round whatever in qualification is actually not that outrageous statement, Ajax, a multiple CL winner should get a place directly in the groups, even if they finish 3rd in Eredivisie, there is many ways a man can look at that, one is that smaller clubs from the top leagues have advantage for just playing in a top league and have a good season, opposite one is that a club from the smaller league should always have this dream to play in the best tournament with the best clubs on Earth and by giving advantage of the more historically important ones there wont be a place for them, and thus ending chances for a fairytale scenarios like the Finland/Bosnia/Albania/Malta/Ireland/Whatever champion defeating the odds and winning the playoff for the group stages...
Every way has its pros and cons, kinda sad that the one CL is going is basically saying Fuck you poor clubs from poor countries, we dont want you here - but if thats how the richest one feel, why not just sit down and create the Super League for themselves?
If it's about football and sport, historical significance is completely irrelevant. Milan have 7 CL cups, Atalanta have 0, but nobody can say that this Milan deserve to be in this CL while Atalanta don't. Arguments of this kind mean that they simply want to create a sandbox for some elite circle, it has nothing to do with the spirit of sport.
Yep, thats exactly what they are after - filthy rich want a new format only for them to become even richer and all of them will benefit greatly from it. And if the filthy rich agree on that it will happen simply because what the rich and powerful want is what the rich and powerful get.
The spirit of sport is long gone and dead, modern day football leaders want to make a name and change the game, they created idiotic jokes like the International Champions thingy, League of Nations, World Cup in November, another Intercontinental thing every 4 years, now a summer Champions League or whatever they called it... Money from sport instead the spirit of sport...
The spirit of sport is long gone and dead, modern day football leaders want to make a name and change the game, they created idiotic jokes like the International Champions thingy, League of Nations, World Cup in November, another Intercontinental thing every 4 years, now a summer Champions League or whatever they called it... Money from sport instead the spirit of sport...
What a idiotic statement. So if Milan finishes 4th, they deserve direct qualification but if Atalanta does they don't? The whole ranking is determined by how well historically the teams in that country performed in the CL. If the country collectively sucks, it will lose champions league spots. Historically also it's been a bigger achievement, at least for a club such as Atalanta, to get that 4th spot vs winning the league in say Scotland. Of course media is going to pounce on it and will read without context. We are absolutely getting roasted again publicly with these moronic statements.
