Analysis of Summer Transfer requirements (3 Viewers)

[Ahmed]

the mgmt. will always be a contentious issue, but the situation they faced when they took over also has to be taken into account...relegation, player exodus and massive financial losses were very real issues that Juve had never really faced before...it might not suit the stature of our club, but seeing that we are 2nd in the league and right in there in the CL makes you think that they might not be that bad after all...

 

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[v1rtu4l]

so we will need 4 defensive/central midfielders for our position. we have 5 right now, but that is ok, because even when zanetti is injuryprone... if he does not play that often, hopefully he will not get injuried that often. because sissoko will be gone for africa cup every now and then we will do good, that we have 4 midfielders, even when he is gone. let zanetti fullfil his contract and then retire in 2 years or something.

for the better cover of camoranesi i would suggest we go for christian maggio.
i think he would not be too expensive and he is pretty versatile, so he could even play right back, when camo is fit. he also has 4 goals and 4 assists in the league so far, so definetly not bad.

since we have at least 3 spots where we have urgent need for new players (fullbacks, central defender and nedved replacement) i am ok, when the board to decide to not splash all the money on some ribeiry, who will not help our shaky back anywhere .... and don't let our dreams fool you ... if we have ribeiry we wont win by outscoring the opponent.

if our money does only allow us to buy 3 good players instead of 1 ribeiry, then i would go for the first solution.

as i mentioned ...

- christian maggio will help cover camo and can even play right back if we want
- some centre back for 10m €
- some leftback or versatile left midfielder for 10m €

so we would have spent 30m € and have a more solid defense

 

[cimenk]

I agree with Душан opinion...
New RB is a must... and for now looks like Eboue is one possible target,
I would like to have a WC CB too like Agger, but it seems Agger would go to Milan and Secco wouldn't not spend a lot in DC.. so if Matias rumour is true, he will be our new CB replacing Knezevic or it can be Belluschi too..
Nedved replacement is a must too.. and Ribery is an ideal solution but looks impossible so there is still lots of rumours we are linked with LM like Jankovic, Drenthe, Sneijder, Rakitic, or Diego and Silva
For RM, we need that too.. but i would say not our priority.. i will take Guberti or Lanzafame if they are really good... but Gio can play as RM too
I prefer Cassano-type of striker than Floccari, we need creative striker as DP subs not a goal getter which we already have (IQ, Trez, Amauri)

 

[JCK]

I agree with Rab.

 

[Albertmare]

I agree with Jack

 

[Guardian]

the mgmt. will always be a contentious issue, but the situation they faced when they took over also has to be taken into account...relegation, player exodus and massive financial losses were very real issues that Juve had never really faced before...it might not suit the stature of our club, but seeing that we are 2nd in the league and right in there in the CL makes you think that they might not be that bad after all...

You mentioned the financial losses and so on but how about Tiago's wage, which is not appropriate even for rich clubs like Tottenham and that was the main reason for his collapsed transfer there? Juve keeps its second position thanks to the old guards such as Del Piero, Trez, Camo, Nedved, Buffon and not Grygera, Mellberg, Poulsen, Tiago and the rest. Only Sissoko, Amauri and Manninger from the newcomers have convinced me. But if you're happy with Mellberg and Tiago and the 9 point gap. it's fine to me. Everyone has his ambition.

As for Maggio, he's great choice, but he'll be pretty expensive, considering his 8M move to Napoli last summer from Samp, I doubt they'll let him go for less than 15M.

 

[dogsarecute]

True, but unfortunately players such as Tiago, Boumsong (glad he left), Zebina, Hasan Sal won't make you champions even if they drink the magical potion of Asterix and Obelix all the time. It's the good management that makes you a champion. Do you remember that phenomenal team with Conte, Torricelli, Ferrara, Padovano that conquered Europe and the world? Yes, they weren't the best individuals but they were hard workers and great professionals. Couldn't say the same thing for that bald head pirate Almiron or that girl Tiago

Unfortunately, you are wrong. Tiago played a while for Chelsea who won the league and has recently shown us that he has the goods to deliver. Not every player plays well on his debut season, I believe it was mentioned that even Nedved and Henry(for Arsenal) took some time to get into gear. I believe you have not seen his recent games, in which he has shown more enthusiasm and put in a few tackles and challenges, and is definitely not a girl.

Salihamidzic is already a Champions League winner although he did not show his Bayern form with us. Players like him and Mellberg are our John O'Shea and Darren Fletcher. With a few choice purchases, we will have a strong first team and a better reserve squad than many other top clubs.

 

[Fred]

I understand using Fletcher as an example, but is being an O'Shea a good thing?

 

[Alen]

Juve keeps its second position thanks to the old guards such as Del Piero, Trez, Camo, Nedved, Buffon

It was kinda hard for Trez, Camo and Buffon to keep Juve on second place from the hospital, wasn't it?

 

[Hust]

@Guardian. I think you are being a little to tough on the club at the moment. Surely things would be different (including the 9 pt gap) if we did not have these huge injury issues all season long. Trez could have scored bags of goals by now, camo obviously was missed as we all are not too fond of his replacement, chiellini's injury rocked us as before he got hurt we had the top defense statistics in the league and just as good in the group stages of CL, plus zebina, now DC, and tiago/poulsen have been down. Considering this I am happy we are in second place and not in a position like Roma and the fact that we are playing in the CL with almost our full squad again.

I see us needing a RB much more than a LB. Grygera makes too many costly mistakes. Criscito needs to come back, he is looking so much more confident at the back than he did when he was with us before. I think he and chiellini could turn into something great. No use gambling millions of dollars without trying criscito that we have at no cost. We do need a LM though, that's our primary focus and our weakest side all year in terms of attacking (IMO).

Like I said, a new RB, Criscito, and a LM and I would be very happy with that mercato. As long as we keep this system we will be fine with our MCs but we will fail if we don't bring in a quality LM.

-ribery or silva
-criscito
-RB? (Not to convinced of eboue just yet). Maybe zebina will return to form....

 

[v1rtu4l]

i don't know if it is a problem, but with criscito and chiellini we would have two left-footed players in central defense who both are only used to play on the left .... criscito is even more used to the left, since he plays left in a backline of 3 defenders.

 

[Hust]

i don't know if it is a problem, but with criscito and chiellini we would have two left-feet players in central defense who both are only used to play on the left .... criscito is even more used to the left, since he plays left in a backline of 3 defenders.

It might be awkward at first but I think they'd get used to it quickly. I think criscito of the 2 is more comfortable with the right. Just like zambrotta was brought from one side the other, it just takes time to get the positional sense. Neither would be worse tacklers or ball winners as a result I don't think.

 

[Guardian]

ouch. The entire Juve forum is against me.

I can only hope that Juve next signing won't be Eboue, Ben Haim, Cisse, Riise or other EPL rejects.

 

[JCK]

ouch. The entire Juve forum is against me.

I can only hope that Juve next signing won't be Eboue, Ben Haim, Cisse, Riise or other EPL rejects.

Like Sissoko?

 

[v1rtu4l]

It might be awkward at first but I think they'd get used to it quickly. I think criscito of the 2 is more comfortable with the right. Just like zambrotta was brought from one side the other, it just takes time to get the positional sense. Neither would be worse tacklers or ball winners as a result I don't think.

the tackling would be the most difficult thing to do on the right for them ...
since attackers tend to go past players on the outside, criscito would have to tackle and intercept balls often with his right foot ... really depends on how comfortable he is using his "weak" foot

 

[Hust]

ouch. The entire Juve forum is against me.

I can only hope that Juve next signing won't be Eboue, Ben Haim, Cisse, Riise or other EPL rejects.

No one is against u, some just don't agree with you. I think ur just being too hard on the club. The team itself have done well most of the season. We all have our thoughts on past management situations. Amauri, sissoko and finally tiago are proving their worth. Poulsen is hopefully next. Some of them might not be what most of us want atm but at least they are finally all doing a good job.

The board knows we need a new LM and I am sure they don't like grygera or marchionni but they can't say that. They are the ones that truely know what our finances are and what we can spend. I am please they admitted the need for a neddy replacement. I for one would love to hear them say they are after G.Rossi. Most of the players mentioned in rumors I like, minus a few. But as of now they are just rumors.

Tiago speaks highly of cassano btw (C4). That one I did not see coming.

 

[Guardian]

Like Sissoko?

no, like the useless as his beard Mellberg, Tiago and the legendary Boumsong! And as far as I remember almost all Juve fans were against Sissoko's arrival at the club. What about now? Praising the board and that genius Secco won't help.

It was kinda hard for Trez, Camo and Buffon to keep Juve on second place from the hospital, wasn't it?

As far as I know Marchisio, De Ceglie, Legrotaglie, Chiellini, Giovinco are not Secco's discoveries. Amauri was in Moggi's shortlist before joining Siena - Juventus affiliated club at that time.

My rant is towards Secco and his brilliant job as director of Football.

 

[Alen]

As far as I know Marchisio, De Ceglie, Legrotaglie, Chiellini, Giovinco are not Secco's discoveries. Amauri was in Moggi's shortlist before joining Siena - Juventus affiliated club at that time.

1. Marchisio, Giovinco and De Ceglie are from Torino (or a place close to Torino) and they're Juve youth products. Moggi also didn't descover them. Who descovered them isn't even important. What's important is who started playing them in Juve, who gave them the chance to play for Juve. Deschamps and Ranieri did.
2. Legrottaglie was kicked out of the team. Even Deschamps didn't count on him. It was Ranieri who gave him another chance so yes, you can say that the new Juve re-descovered Legrottaglie.
3. Amauri never played for Siena. Are we now going to credit Moggi even for Amauri's transfer?

 

[Dostoevsky]

And, Dusan, we think we know the weaknesses, but they may not be so bad once we see more of the injured players return.

Even if they all return we need

Nedved's replacement
someone instead of Marchionni
right back...Zebina can be good but we should not reley on him because he's injury prone.

It's early to say we are going to sign Floccari because we don't know if Iaquinta will stay or not.Criscito should come back whatever the case.But overall even if they all come back now they can't change much.

 

[Guardian]

1. Marchisio, Giovinco and De Ceglie are from Torino (or a place close to Torino) and they're Juve youth products. Moggi also didn't descover them. Who descovered them isn't even important. What's important is who started playing them in Juve, who gave them the chance to play for Juve. Deschamps and Ranieri did.
2. Legrottaglie was kicked out of the team. Even Deschamps didn't count on him. It was Ranieri who gave him another chance so yes, you can say that the new Juve re-descovered Legrottaglie.
3. Amauri never played for Siena. Are we now going to credit Moggi even for Amauri's transfer?

1. Hadn't been the injuries of Zanetti, Poulsen, Salihamijic and Trez, and the shitness of Tiago, the three Juve products wouldn't have even smelled the pitch. I'm not criticizing the youth system, I'm exactly pointing out that the three youngsters were loaned out at the expense of Tiago and Almiron and it's better to stick to them rather to expensive players with fishy future.

2. Again it was Andrde's injury what resurrected Legro's career. Secco wasted millions on an injury-prone player having an outcast who can do a better job

3. My bad, I meant Chievo. And it was well known Maggi's interest towards Amauri (not sexual of course)