Analysis of Summer Transfer requirements (40 Viewers)

[Enoran]

The positions that we need to fill are a replacement for Nedved and hope and pray that Andrade does not get injured again this year. The replacement for Nedved should either be Diego or Cassano, and like somebody else said they would not be direct replacements but there would be a switch of formation. A 4-3-3 is perfect for this squad with the players we have, We have so many CM its not funny might as well make use of them, this way Giovinco will get more playing time in a more natural position and Cassano would fit right into the team or Diego. For me, a Chiellini-Andrade partnership would be great with Legro and Mellberg as subs....btw what kind of freebies are available this upcoming transfer window besides Eboue?

Diego Lugano, a CB from Fernabache and Lazio looks really interested in getting him.

 

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[Lo-Pan]

I am glad we have Amauri also, mate. I was reacting to the dullard who labeled me as lacking brightness...I am fully aware and grateful for the brazillian's work rate and key contributions to the team, but that is mainly because of the hole that needed filling with Trezeguet out for so long. Still, without him we would be in a far worse position than we currently occupy. That is without doubt.

"hope and pray that Andrade does not get injured again this year. "

Am I wrong in assuming that Andrade is finished, as both a professional footballer and a Juventus employee*

 

[Enoran]

I am glad we have Amauri also, mate. I was reacting to the dullard who labeled me as lacking brightness...I am fully aware and grateful for the brazillian's work rate and key contributions to the team, but that is mainly because of the hole that needed filling with Trezeguet out for so long. Still, without him we would be in a far worse position than we currently occupy. That is without doubt.

"hope and pray that Andrade does not get injured again this year. "

Am I wrong in assuming that Andrade is finished, as both a professional footballer and a Juventus employee*

No problem, dude.

I think Andrade is probably done as a Juventus employee.

 

[dogsarecute]

I am glad we have Amauri also, mate. I was reacting to the dullard who labeled me as lacking brightness...I am fully aware and grateful for the brazillian's work rate and key contributions to the team, but that is mainly because of the hole that needed filling with Trezeguet out for so long. Still, without him we would be in a far worse position than we currently occupy. That is without doubt.

"hope and pray that Andrade does not get injured again this year. "

Am I wrong in assuming that Andrade is finished, as both a professional footballer and a Juventus employee*

Look at Marchionni now.

 

[Toro_Merda]

Diego Lugano, a CB from Fernabache and Lazio looks really interested in getting him.

Mate, check Lugano's yellow/red card statistic! The guy gets out of control pretty easy..

 

[v1rtu4l]

looks good, but still i have doubts about De ceglie...

de ceglies last game in left back position was horrible ... it is more wishful thinking, than anything realistic to think that de ceglie would overtake the left back spot from molinaro.

last game de ceglie did not even achieve one clearance from his position.
yes, he tried to blast the ball up the field in dangerous situations (the way molinaro just blasts it forward under pressure), but de ceglie did not even get 5 metres away with his clearance, constantly hitting the opponents instead of firing it over their heads to release pressure

he is surely not good enough to accomplish the defensive part of the left back role

 

[Marceℓℓo]

he is surely not good enough to accomplish the defensive part of the left back role

He already proved you wrong.

 

[v1rtu4l]

He already proved you wrong.

when ? bringing in 3 good crosses in 14 games he appeared in ?

 

[Marceℓℓo]

when ? bringing in 3 good crosses in 14 games he appeared in ?

You were talking about the defensive part of the LB position,not about crosses.

he is surely not good enough to accomplish the defensive part of the left back role

He showed last season at Siena and with the Azzurrini that he's not just able to cross and attack but able to defend aswell.

 

[Firestarter]

I agree with Marceℓℓo. If Tiago eventually got a chance after his initial 12 months then definitely De Ceglie will get another chance at left-back eventually..

 

[v1rtu4l]

You were talking about the defensive part of the LB position,not about crosses.

when i do evaluate if a player is decent as full back i do look at the defensive qualities first. many here do only look at what the player brings forward, so i tried to argue "in your world" looking at what he brings to the table and that is (despite a few good crosses) not very much. he was often more or less uninspiring, not knowing when to run in front (even when he played on nedveds position which does not need him to be so defensive).

He showed last season at Siena and with the Azzurrini that he's not just able to cross and attack but able to defend aswell.

the azzurrini as well es siena pretty much have no alternatives, so it is not a big qualification, to be a starter for a low quality serie a team or a national squard where he does not have to compete against players that are more experienced (and so more stable in defense)... just watch de ceglies last match in left back position again and then tell me, that he has enough defensive qualities to play there (instead of molinaro).

to help you: it was the game against fiorentina were we were very happy to win, because our backline was pretty shaky

 

[Bjerknes]

You were talking about the defensive part of the LB position,not about crosses.


He showed last season at Siena and with the Azzurrini that he's not just able to cross and attack but able to defend aswell.

Exactly. That's pretty obvious.

One bad match doesn't mean anything. People with 50 bad matches have and still are playing on the flanks.

 

[Marceℓℓo]

when i do evaluate if a player is decent as full back i do look at the defensive qualities first. many here do only look at what the player brings forward, so i tried to argue "in your world" looking at what he brings to the table and that is (despite a few good crosses) not very much. he was often more or less uninspiring, not knowing when to run in front (even when he played on nedveds position which does not need him to be so defensive).



the azzurrini as well es siena pretty much have no alternatives, so it is not a big qualification, to be a starter for a low quality serie a team or a national squard where he does not have to compete against players that are more experienced (and so more stable in defense)... just watch de ceglies last match in left back position again and then tell me, that he has enough defensive qualities to play there (instead of molinaro).

to help you: it was the game against fiorentina were we were very happy to win, because our backline was pretty shaky

How the hell did you come to the conclusion that "in my world" a fullback has to be primary good offensively?God knows.
To me it's more important what a fullback offers defensively and you claimed in one of your previous posts that De Ceglie "is surely not good enough to accomplish the defensive part of the left back role",which I proved wrong.

The Azzurrini have no alternatives?That has to be a joke.

Rubin
De Silvestri
Criscito

to name a few.And they're all natural fullbacks,unlike De Ceglie.Still Casiraghi prefered him.Why is that?Must be because Casiraghi has no clue at all.Or simply because De Ceglie IS able to defend.

 

[Bjerknes]

How the hell did you come to the conclusion that "in my world" a fullback has to be primary good offensively?God knows.
To me it's more important what a fullback offers defensively and you claimed in one of your previous posts that De Ceglie "is surely not good enough to accomplish the defensive part of the left back role",which I proved wrong.

The Azzurrini have no alternatives?That has to be a joke.

Rubin
De Silvestri
Criscito

to name a few.And they're all natural fullbacks,unlike De Ceglie.Still Casiraghi prefered him.Why is that?Must be because Casiraghi has no clue at all.Or simply because De Ceglie IS able to defend.

He either doesn't consider the Azzurrini as a useful judge of players or doesn't know anything about them whatsoever. It was the same case when we were discussing Giovinco.

 

[Marceℓℓo]

He either doesn't consider the Azzurrini as a useful judge of players or doesn't know anything about them whatsoever. It was the same case when we were discussing Giovinco.

"Playing for the Azzurrini doesn't count because they have weak opponents and no alternatives"

 

[Bjerknes]

just watch de ceglies last match in left back position again and then tell me, that he has enough defensive qualities to play there (instead of molinaro).

We don't need to watch the last match because we've seen the others, and it confirms our view.

 

[JCK]

Why do you (all of you) try to discuss with him?

 

[Bjerknes]

I'm on his ignore list, so I'm not trying to discuss with him.

 

[only-juve]

He showed last season at Siena and with the Azzurrini that he's not just able to cross and attack but able to defend aswell.

I've watched most of siena and empoli's games last season (to watch our youngsters) and honestly De ceglie was nothing special. He was just an "Ok" player. Didn't stand out in siena's team Unlike Giovinco for example with Empoli or even marchisio (who missed many games due to injury but still performed great when he did play there)....

 

[Luftwaffles]

Question:

Ignoring any income from player sales between the end of the season and the 31st August 2009, what sum do we believe the club has (say minimum/maximum) to spend on the transfer market?