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Post Ironic said:
NFL coaching hires...

McAdoo - Giants
Kelly - 49ers
Bucs - Koetter
Eagles - Pederson

Talk about a sad week of coaching hires. :rofl:
@acmilan Is this the weakest set of offseason coaching hires in recent memory?
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I don't think see how this is "the weakest set of offseason coaching hires in recent memory" unless your memory started this week. Which year's offseason coaching hires is your benchmark?
 

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Post Ironic said:
NFL coaching hires...

McAdoo - Giants
Kelly - 49ers
Bucs - Koetter
Eagles - Pederson

Talk about a sad week of coaching hires. :rofl:
@acmilan Is this the weakest set of offseason coaching hires in recent memory?
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Let's not leave the Titans out - If rumors are true, Mike Mularky will get that job :D

well, not exactly awe inspiring hires, for sure, but kind of has to be expected when established coaches like Coughlin, L. Smith, Shanaghan are getting phased out of the profession. Teams are searching for that new waive of young coaches to bring them to the promised land and the allure of a successful revolution is just too good to resist :p

I for one think the Chip Kelly hire wasn't all that bad in view of giving Kaepernick one last shot. Dirk Koetter has been around the lot for a while now and if his rapport with Winston is as good as reported, I can see the justification for that hire too.

It's the other appointments that are kind of shots in the dark - McAdoo and Pederson are relatively new to the coaching scene, not much experience there before rising to the HC position. Can't help but feel like they are set up for failure not necessarily due to lack of ability/talent but by being thrown in the meat-grinder just way too early in their respective coaching careers.

If Mularky indeed gets the Titans job, that would be the definition of stupidity - he's such a low-ceiling, mediocre coach and has done absolutely nothing to deserve a 3rd shot as a HC in the NFL. To expect that he, seemingly out of nowhere, will defeat his own mediocrity just because of Mariota, is just stupid. I can understand looking for stability around a developing, young Qb but then why get rid of the Whiz? And then Mularky is the best you can come up with? What a waste of time ...

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I don't think see how this is "the weakest set of offseason coaching hires in recent memory" unless your memory started this week. Which year's offseason coaching hires is your benchmark?
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somebody's on the defensive here :p
 
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Post Ironic said:
NFL coaching hires...

McAdoo - Giants
Kelly - 49ers
Bucs - Koetter
Eagles - Pederson

Talk about a sad week of coaching hires. :rofl:
@acmilan Is this the weakest set of offseason coaching hires in recent memory?
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on a related note, forgot to mention Hue Jackson, who for me was one of the better HC candidates available this "Black Monday" season. In a way, that speaks of the dearth of HC talent on the market, but at the same time I thought if there was one former HC who deserved a 2nd chance, it was HJ.
Unfortunately for him, it seems the Browns were the only team that actually offered him a job - kind of explains why he went there. It will be an uphill battle for him to succeed there - just a shit organization thruout, no franchise QB in sight and the AFC North is a very tough, competitive division.
So, all in all - very much like the choice the Browns made, hate the fit from HJ's perspective.
 
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acmilan said:
on a related note, forgot to mention Hue Jackson, who for me was one of the better HC candidates available this "Black Monday" season. In a way, that speaks of the dearth of HC talent on the market, but at the same time I thought if there was one former HC who deserved a 2nd chance, it was HJ.
Unfortunately for him, it seems the Browns were the only team that actually offered him a job - kind of explains why he went there. It will be an uphill battle for him to succeed there - just a shit organization thruout, no franchise QB in sight and the AFC North is a very tough, competitive division.
So, all in all - very much like the choice the Browns made, hate the fit from HJ's perspective.
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:agree:

Best coaching hire by far imo, even if he likely won't succeed in the mess that has been made in Cleveland.

Jon Gruden needs to be coaching again in the league. The rumour mill is suggesting he would have taken the Colts job if they had fired Pagano. The 49ers and Eagles should have looked in his direction.

I honestly think Chip Kelly is the worst hire of all. And I have a soft spot for the 49ers. The guy just hasn't shown he can adapt his coaching philosophy to the league. His teams are soft. They were in college too. They dominated and absolutely crushed less athletic and tough teams, but every time they came up against tough, physical teams they were shut down completely. And in the NFL playing too much for speed and gimmick shit doesn't work, as NFL teams have both toughness and speed far beyond what the top CFB teams have. It will be interesting to see how he does with an athletic QB like Kaep, if he returns him to a starting role, but I just don't see it working unless he can better figure out how to adapt his hybrid spread-pro offense to the NFL. He tried in Philly with 2 non-athlete QBs, but with an athlete will he revert to a full-on Oregon style spread again? NFL teams figure out how to shut that down very quick. Seattle's offense, and Harbaugh's utilization of Kaep for his first 2 years should be the blueprint he follows. Harbaugh's mistake with Kaep was trying to slowly turn him into more of an exclusively pro-style pocket passer, understandable due to high injury rates for these hybrid QBs, but at the same time Kaep clearly showed he couldn't make that transition nor did he have the poise, calm, and intelligence to sit in the pocket, go through his reads quickly, and get the ball out.

At the same time reverting to full-on spread just doesn't work, so it will be interesting to see how he uses this second opportunity. I see nothing better than mediocre in his future. Especially considering that division is going to stay very strong for at another 2 years, especially with the Rams looking. So promising for the future.
 
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