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[Post Ironic]

Do you guys think Raiders will make it into the play-offs this time?

With Roethlisberger back, I'd say Steelers and Jets for wildcard spots... But the Raiders could be in the mix. I don't see them catching the Broncos, as that team seems to have a pretty exceptional defense to make up for Manning's abysmal season.

 

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With Roethlisberger back, I'd say Steelers and Jets for wildcard spots... But the Raiders could be in the mix. I don't see them catching the Broncos, as that team seems to have a pretty exceptional defense to make up for Manning's abysmal season.

Their match was pretty close, I'd dare to say the Raiders should have won it, but Janikowski fucked up big time.

I hope they do, the team is much better than it was last year and I'd be exciting to watch them getting somewhere for once

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Their match was pretty close, I'd dare to say the Raiders should have won it, but Janikowski fucked up big time.

I hope they do, the team is much better than it was last year and I'd be exciting to watch them getting somewhere for once

you didnt just call it a match did you

 

[Post Ironic]

Raiders probably haven't had a team this "good" since Gannon and that dismantling at the hands of Derrick Brooks and Warren Sapp in Super Bowl 37. Carr seems like a pretty good QB though. It's a good thing that you finally moved on from McFadden. The guy just couldn't catch a break in Oakland. And Latavious Murray seems like a pretty capable replacement.

 

[.zero]

Rodgers makes me haply

 

[Enron]

Stay humble.

 

[.zero]

FIGJAM

 

[Post Ironic]

If this trade were to actually happen:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14003455/trades-see-calvin-johnson-detroit-lions-new-england-patriots-draft-pick

Holy shit. NFL watch out.

 

[.zero]

@acmilan

 

[ALC]

That should get vetoed.

 

[.zero]

Detroit shouldn't have a team

 

[Post Ironic]

It's just a hypothetical trade that ESPN proposed as one they would like to see...

The eery bit is that it's somewhat similar situation to Randy Moss before '07.

Some of the other trades they suggest are JJ Watt to the Packers and Drew Brees to the Jets.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

fuckin espn east coast bias, who the fuck cares about the jets

 

[Post Ironic]

 

[ALC]

East coast is the bigger market, bro. A lotta people live there.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

East coast is the bigger market, bro. A lotta people live there.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-releases-nfl-fan-map-of-us-jets-have-no-fans

 

[.zero]

@ the Jets

 

[Post Ironic]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on...-releases-nfl-fan-map-of-us-jets-have-no-fans

The Jets are the biggest circus in the NFL though. Hence the obsession the media has. Rex Ryan, Brett Favre's time there, Tim Tebow , the neverending QB controversy, the ownership. Laughable franchise, perhaps only surpassed by the Raiders and Browns in terms of sheer ineptitude over the last dozen years.

 

[.zero]

@LastJetsTitle

A fun follow on Twitter

 

[acmilan]

I can post stats all day long to show how superior Rodgers is to Brady. As he leads Brady in every single QB measurable.

The difference between you and everyone else here, is that we all acknowledge that Brady is one of the greatest QBs of all time, while you do your best to discredit and fling shit at every other QB in football. I've consistently stated Brady's a top 3 of all time QB for me. And I've never once said Rodgers is in that conversation at this very moment.

I've said if he wins another SB or 2 he certainly will be considering his unprecedented efficiency. There's a reason he has the best passer rating of all time by almost 10 points. And no, it's not the modern era, otherwise multiple QBs would have it. There's a reason he has better career Passer Rating, QBR, YPA, Completion%, TD %, Int %, TD-Int Ratio, in both regular season and post-season over Brady. Will those numbers hold up over the next 7-10 years? Who the hell knows. But statistically speaking, he's been the best QB in the NFL over the last 5 years. Both regular season and post-season. And yes, post-season too. He has the 3rd highest postseason passer rating of all time. And not 1 QB has won more than 1 SB in the last 5 years, the same number Rodgers has won.

Let's get another thing straight. Brady has won 1 Super Bowl since 2005. The same number as Rodgers. Brady has also lost 4 straight playoff match-ups with the Manning brothers. The Giants defense wiped their asses with Brady twice, just like you said Legion of Boom did to Rodgers. Does it diminish his legacy, nope. It just proves the point that even the greats lose big games. So get over yourself and your love for Brady.

You really are pathetic. Your stats are irrelevant and mostly untrue. Generally you post overall numbers and other such nonsense that obviously favour the guy with a longer career. Obviously Brady being 7 years older would have better overall totals, but as far as actual comparable stats go, it's Rodgers running riot over Brady.

Take a -rep for spouting delusional nonsense. Because calling Rodgers average and overrated is just that. And something that flies in the face of every bit of evidence available.

PS. Brady is 7-5 in his last 12 postseason starts with 1 SB since Rodgers replaced Favre in 2008. So prime Brady has had almost identical success to Rodgers. Clueless.

Sure, let's just pretend Brady didn't win anything before 2008 because you know, it suits you to do so. Let's pretend the Pats didn't have a dynasty because you know - they had a good defense.

Brady was out the entire 2008 and was finding his footing back from a serious injury, with the Pats being in transition, in 2009 (a lot of the old guard was either traded away or retired). Once the Pats rebuilt to a somewhat acceptable level, Brady again made the SB in 2011 with the 31st ranked D and an injured Gronk. The rest is history.

You need once and for all to understand that you are the one being a homer and pulling things out of your ass by putting Rodgers in the same conversation with the likes of Brady and Montana. Rodgers isn't even the best Packer QB of the last 25 years .... yet. Forget about anything more than that.

I don't have to be a homer or make a case for Brady being way above Rodgers' league. Brady's stats, trophies and achievements make that case on their own. I don't need to stretch reality to make it for him, unlike what you do with Rodgers acting as if the guy is destined to go 15-0 in the postseason and 3 more SB wins to boot, in the years to come. Until that actually happens, Favre > Rodgers, forget about Brady, he is miles ahead of that conversation.

Cheers

P.S. if there was a point you made in the previous post that I didn't address it's because I didn't really read it. Sorry, can't be bothered to as I know that there is NO CASE you can make that is supported by actual stats/facts/evidence, only your own personal bias. I honestly have no time to waste with convos that involve the "love in someone's heart". You wanna have a serious discussion, come at me with facts, not with ass-pulled speculations.

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@acmilan

yeah, only way that happens is if Megatron values that ring at 15+ mil in paycuts.
Pats are alright as they are, they just need to get healthy as the Offense has been able to dress up only 15-16 guys over the past couple of games.

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Detroit shouldn't have a team

they do?

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fuckin espn east coast bias, who the fuck cares about the jets

Jets are 4th best team in the AFC, imo. Whan it comes to play-offs, I'd say they top even Bengals with GingerMagic under center. They are what every clueless fuck out there thought the Bills would be this year. The Todd Bowls effect - who'd have thought that having an actually professional coach would do good things to a team.