That's what I've noticed too. I've only watched a few Bears games this year though, and he hasn't been impressive in what I've seen.
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That's what I've noticed too. I've only watched a few Bears games this year though, and he hasn't been impressive in what I've seen.
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Bears' issues don't have to have a single source. I am not trying to defend Trestman or claim he is cut out to be a NFl HC - some people are better OCs than HCs, after all. But to religiously defend a player who has done nothing else but disillusion people with his talent, at all organizations and all HC and OCs he's ever been with, is quite misguided imo ... bordering on blind favoritism, I'd say.
No one can deny he has the physical talent/attributes needed to be a QB. What separates the great and the average QB, however, hides int he intangibles, the things you can't measure for, like heart, leadership, winning/never-say-die mentality, etc, etc. That's where Cutler is as lacking as your average Joe out there.
He looks completely disinterested in the game as if he'd rather be somewhere else. There is no fire in the guy to make his teammates believe he can be their leader and they can rally up around him thru thick and thin.
It's simply difficult to take the guy seriously, as a leader - all he's been talking about for 10 years now is how he should get better and in his 30s he is still playing at a level suitable for 2nd year player (or even a rookie), not a seasoned vet. Compare his aloof behavior, especially after yet another loss or poor performance, to how the Brady's, Mannings, Breeses of the world react. He is not even close to the passion and strong feelings those guys show, the anger they feel towards losing or even winning a game where they were anything short of perfect. For them football is a passion, for Cutler, more like a job, a chore. This affects what you project to those around you and how they perceive you - as a leader they'd be willing to punish their bodies for, or as an over-paid schmuck who just doesn't care as long as the pay-checks keep coming. Projections and perceptions in a sport like football matter a ton, you could even say they are everything once you go beyond drawing Xs and Os on the board - a coach can lose his players but so can a QB.
No one can deny he has the physical talent/attributes needed to be a QB. What separates the great and the average QB, however, hides int he intangibles, the things you can't measure for, like heart, leadership, winning/never-say-die mentality, etc, etc. That's where Cutler is as lacking as your average Joe out there.
He looks completely disinterested in the game as if he'd rather be somewhere else. There is no fire in the guy to make his teammates believe he can be their leader and they can rally up around him thru thick and thin.
It's simply difficult to take the guy seriously, as a leader - all he's been talking about for 10 years now is how he should get better and in his 30s he is still playing at a level suitable for 2nd year player (or even a rookie), not a seasoned vet. Compare his aloof behavior, especially after yet another loss or poor performance, to how the Brady's, Mannings, Breeses of the world react. He is not even close to the passion and strong feelings those guys show, the anger they feel towards losing or even winning a game where they were anything short of perfect. For them football is a passion, for Cutler, more like a job, a chore. This affects what you project to those around you and how they perceive you - as a leader they'd be willing to punish their bodies for, or as an over-paid schmuck who just doesn't care as long as the pay-checks keep coming. Projections and perceptions in a sport like football matter a ton, you could even say they are everything once you go beyond drawing Xs and Os on the board - a coach can lose his players but so can a QB.
man i could have sworn you have a second home inside cutler's head 
anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
man i could have sworn you have a second home inside cutler's head anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
All I need to do is ask myself how I'd feel if I was on that team and saw his lack of passion after a loss, for example.You are right, you don't need a Brady or a Manning to win a SB if a solid base is already present. What you need however is a team that won't quit on it's QB - that is a necessary requirement. Flacco may not be as talented as Cutler, but no one can blame him for losing his team either or looking like he has ten other things he'd rather do during a game.
Again, I never said Cutler is the source of all things that have been stopping the Bears in recent years, especially the past 2, but he is a problem they just grew into a full fledged disaster with that contract they gave him. He just isn't cut out for the job, with or without a better coach or GM at the helm.
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Well everyone does that, to one extent or the other. It's not like you outscore the opponent even if they score their best or above their average because of shrewd roster additions. People scoring their fewest pts, on average, vs you or Voller (due to injuries, byes or just plain underperforming rosters) have little to do with that.
Jamie (Scrote Squad) is at the other end of the spectrum and is subsequently ranked near the bottom even if he's scored as many pts as some of the leaders in the league.
This is an artifact of the small league, which only magnifies the effects of the already small sample of games within a season.
man i could have sworn you have a second home inside cutler's head anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
anyhoos we dont need brady, brees, etc... fuckin flaco won the last SB. We need a solid defense and a good head coach, i dont bother trying to analyze and interpret facial expressions, but i personally cant question passion and commitment of someone who got sacked more than any other qb for 2 years and not complain about it
I totally see him winning a SB right before he retires, Disney-movie style. And they make a Disney move out of it.
man, you just got lucky as fuck.
Works for him? How is that considering he's done nothing but fallen short of his talent, time and time again, under 4 different regimes at 2 different organizations? Actually, I would fully expect him to consider that a success himself.
don't worry, you will win the next one as X will be missing Bell and Lynch will likely under-perform, not to mention Bernard may well be back.
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I am not blaming you for being 9-2, mate ... just pointing out the role circumstances can play in a smaller league.
don't worry, you will win the next one as X will be missing Bell and Lynch will likely under-perform, not to mention Bernard may well be back.
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I am not blaming you for being 9-2, mate
... just pointing out the role circumstances can play in a smaller league.