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[acmilan]

I'm predicting a loss to the Bengals next week. We really need to get a legit #2 wide out.

you could sure use a slot receiver too. Tell you what - you give us JJ Watt and you can have Edelman and Lloyd. Or, you give us Watt and I will tell you what your real problems actually are.

on a related note, Lovie, Turner and Reid, among other coaches, have been canned today. Sexy-Rexy is staying

 

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[GordoDeCentral]

I do say...

liszt rock star status

behind fucking vikings. a team full of shitty kids.

i understand ur madness.

dont even wanna mention wat team i 'support' in 'merican football.

been hatin that guy for a while

in his defense, those 5 losses in the 2nd half of the season did come vs some pretty strong opposition. The one thing I would fault him and the GM is their failure to address the O-line problem in the off-season, as that was a major issue last year, as well.

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those kids grew up quickly during the season. they are a team to be reckoned with and would have been even better with Harvin in there too.

Cowboys?

i disagree, even with all the problems, biggest of which is mike tice and his play calling, we should have at the very least beaten the vikes and seattle, lovie cant manage shit. Hed be ideal as a def. coordinator but not sure hed accept that role, maybe the saints??

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you could sure use a slot receiver too. Tell you what - you give us JJ Watt and you can have Edelman and Lloyd. Or, you give us Watt and I will tell you what your real problems actually are.

on a related note, Lovie, Turner and Reid, among other coaches, have been canned today. Sexy-Rexy is staying

poor jets fans, actually fuck em

 

[swag]

The O-line was a disaster, but yeah -- something ain't right if the team allows itself to be manhandled like that by the Vikings with playoffs on the line.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

what you think of chucky, greg? this team will need some really strong leadership, this was most likely urlacher's last year(good riddance at this point) and i dont see anybody on the team who can step up.

 

[swag]

what you think of chucky, greg? this team will need some really strong leadership, this was most likely urlacher's last year(good riddance at this point) and i dont see anybody on the team who can step up.

Gruden? I honestly like the guy and thought he could win with a disgusting team like the Raiders. If he's in the market for a new yob, I'd welcome him to Chi-town. Not only that, but the man's football philosophies mesh well with Chicago's style (smashmouth football, stifling defense, solid running game, and opportunistic passing). I would see him as a definite upgrade.

And Urlacher is only half the playa Patrick Willis is these days.

 

[Enron]

you could sure use a slot receiver too. Tell you what - you give us JJ Watt and you can have Edelman and Lloyd. Or, you give us Watt and I will tell you what your real problems actually are.

on a related note, Lovie, Turner and Reid, among other coaches, have been canned today. Sexy-Rexy is staying

Watt is too good for your team.

Our biggest issue is the lack of B. Cushing on defense. Now we only have one healthy middle linebacker.

I couldn't believe Rex Ryan didn't get fired. The Jets probably just want a good draft pick next year too. Then they'll let him go.

 

[acmilan]

what you think of chucky, greg? this team will need some really strong leadership, this was most likely urlacher's last year(good riddance at this point) and i dont see anybody on the team who can step up.

firing Lovie would be worth it if you can get one of Chucky, Cowher or Saban, imo. Personally, I think defensive-minded leaders like the last two would be a better fit. Also, as you said the Bears lack leadership and Gruden strikes me as more of a players' coach, like Lovie. Is that necessarily a bad thing? No, but think Cowher or Saban would fit in like a glove in the Bear philosophy.

Otherwise, if you guys try to experiment with a new, inexperienced HC, then I'd say firing Lovie has a better chance of backfiring than not.

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The O-line was a disaster, but yeah -- something ain't right if the team allows itself to be manhandled like that by the Vikings with playoffs on the line.

I wouldn't take the vikings too lightly - they have manhandled some of the best teams in the NFL this year - Houston, 49ers - and may have shown signs of inconsistency in the first half of the season, normal for a team just coming together, but have solidified themselves as a team to be reckoned with in the final stretch of the season. Same goes for the loss vs the Seahawks. And those were the two "lower" profile teams the Bears had to play in what was the toughest 6-game schedule in the NFL from week 10 to 15. Could have the Bears done better? Sure but they also had the misfortune to face that schedule while leaking oil in all directions due to injuries.

at the risk of sounding like broken record - a better O-line would have made a big difference in those games (not just in terms of protecting Cuttler but blocking to improve the run) even with Tice's far from perfect play-calling.

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Watt is too good for your team.

Our biggest issue is the lack of B. Cushing on defense. Now we only have one healthy middle linebacker.

I couldn't believe Rex Ryan didn't get fired. The Jets probably just want a good draft pick next year too. Then they'll let him go.

Really? And this while Brady and Big Vince are still picking pieces of your asses off their boots 4 weeks later?

that's a problem and losing a player like Cushing would be an issue for any team out there but is nowhere near the biggest issue the texans have, imo.

 

[Enron]

I appreciate you keeping your secrets, but what do you think is the biggest problem with the Texans? We have a few so I'm sure we agree.

 

[KB824]

I appreciate you keeping your secrets, but what do you think is the biggest problem with the Texans? We have a few so I'm sure we agree.

Head Coach, for one.

You don't give the ball to Foster only 16 times, when you have a wildly inconsistent Schaub at Quarterback.

No real threat for a 2nd WR.

Defense isn't really the problem when the offense has had the most 3 and outs in the league.

 

[Enron]

Head Coach, for one.

You don't give the ball to Foster only 16 times, when you have a wildly inconsistent Schaub at Quarterback.

No real threat for a 2nd WR.

Defense isn't really the problem when the offense has had the most 3 and outs in the league.

That's pretty much what I think (is very obvious). The only additions would be the DB's giving up big plays and our O-line being short of consistency lately.

I think if the offense weren't so inconsistent, the DBs would be less likely to give up big plays.

Thought maybe there was some sort of secret I didn't know about.

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Apparently Hester is pondering retirement. I'm not sure I would care if I were a Bears fan.

 

[KB824]

Oh, and thank you Coach Harbaugh for putting Kaepernick in.

Doesn't matter to me if they end up taking a step back this year. He does things on the field that Smith simply can't do. Exhibit A- 1st TD Pass to Crabtree against New England, where he split 2 defenders at 62 MPH. Exhibit B- 35 yd TD Pass to Walker against New England, when he looked left, center, center right, then right, threw off his back foot 35 yards right to Walker. Exhibit 3- Yesterday against the Cardinals, rolling to his left, throwing a bullet across his body, in stride to Crabtree for a Touchdown.

Game Manager, Shmame Manager. You need a QB that can make an impact if you want to win in this league. SF might finally have one in over a decade

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That's pretty much what I think (is very obvious). The only additions would be the DB's giving up big plays and our O-line being short of consistency lately.

I think if the offense weren't so inconsistent, the DBs would be less likely to give up big plays.

Thought maybe there was some sort of secret I didn't know about.

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Apparently Hester is pondering retirement. I'm not sure I would care if I were a Bears fan.

It's no secret when you look at it. There is a lack of team speed on offense for the Texans, and a true burner at the #2 spot would open up the offense, because it seems that Foster has lost a half step. His plays of 20 yards or longer this year, if I remember correctly, are less than half of what he had in 2011.

If you are referring to that TD pass to Hilton yesterday in regards to the DB's, that pass by Luck was absolutely perfect, and he did a great job of looking off of the safety on that play

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Whomever decides to coach the Bears will need to have a greater say in the draft room. The Bears have not drafted well since 2008.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

whoch will most likely wont happen since the bears always promote asst coaches, i am just so sick and tired of apathetic clueless lovie

 

[KB824]

whoch will most likely wont happen since the bears always promote asst coaches, i am just so sick and tired of apathetic clueless lovie

The real problem with the Bears, I think, is the mentality that the front office feels that they are always just 1 or 2 players away. The problem with that is in order to acquire those 1 or 2 players every year, you are giving up draft picks, and putting your self in a precarious situation in regards to the salary cap. There really is no depth behind the starting 22, and if you haven't had a decent draft in 4 years, your depth is going to be crippled. They're not 1 or 2 players away, and the last time they were, Urlacher and Briggs were still in their prime.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i think briggs is still a pro-bowler, defense was never our problem. and like you said earlier angelo wasted 90% of our picks at least by trading for them we had some assured value, i dont think anyone will argue the acquisitions of peppers or marshall. offensively we need the obvious OL upgrade and a solid TE, but more importantly we need a real headcoach who can recruit a real off coordinator.

 

[KB824]

i think briggs is still a pro-bowler, defense was never our problem. and like you said earlier angelo wasted 90% of our picks at least by trading for them we had some assured value, i dont think anyone will argue the acquisitions of peppers or marshall. offensively we need the obvious OL upgrade and a solid TE, but more importantly we need a real headcoach who can recruit a real off coordinator.

Peppers wasn't a trade, but a free agent signing, and a damn good one. Marhsall they got for peanuts. The Cutler trade is what is backfiring against the Bears right now.

Million dollar arm, 10 cent head.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

i stand corrected, but i dont see problem being with Jay at this point.

 

[KB824]

i stand corrected, but i dont see problem being with Jay at this point.

I do. To be honest, I never liked Jay Cutler. I didn't like him coming out of college, I don't like his lack of accuracy that is barely 61% for his career in this pass happy era of the NFL,nor his TD-INT ratio that isn't even 1.5-1, or his horrible decision making. This actually sounds like Alex Smith all over again.

 

[acmilan]

I appreciate you keeping your secrets, but what do you think is the biggest problem with the Texans? We have a few so I'm sure we agree.

well, I don't see Watt strolling towards Gillette either

Head Coach, for one.

You don't give the ball to Foster only 16 times, when you have a wildly inconsistent Schaub at Quarterback.

No real threat for a 2nd WR.

Defense isn't really the problem when the offense has had the most 3 and outs in the league.

on all accounts.
Above all, for me it's a matter of mentality - neither Schaub nor Kubiak are winners and this and last year they have reached their ceiling in the form of impressive reg. season records, for the most part racked up in low-profile games vs weaker opposition, while falling short under the spotlight.
The D can carry this team only as far as an early play-off game or two, imo. Anything can happen in the post season - hey the Jets beat the Pats at Gillete 2 years ago - but if Houston wants to get to the next level, they would need to look for answers elsewhere, at least when it comes to Schaub at first. Of course that's easier said than done as there is a good chance of ending up looking back on this period with nostalgia but that's the risk of the business.

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The real problem with the Bears, I think, is the mentality that the front office feels that they are always just 1 or 2 players away. The problem with that is in order to acquire those 1 or 2 players every year, you are giving up draft picks, and putting your self in a precarious situation in regards to the salary cap. There really is no depth behind the starting 22, and if you haven't had a decent draft in 4 years, your depth is going to be crippled. They're not 1 or 2 players away, and the last time they were, Urlacher and Briggs were still in their prime.

Peppers wasn't a trade, but a free agent signing, and a damn good one. Marhsall they got for peanuts. The Cutler trade is what is backfiring against the Bears right now.

Million dollar arm, 10 cent head.

 

[swag]

Briggs is awesome.

But Jay Cutler is "Carson Palmer" in Chicagoese.

 

[acmilan]

you wish, Palmer is a beast.