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    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
    actually, there are similarities...

    Answer this Andy:

    Did the USA use depleted Uranium for armor-penetrating ammunition durring the Gulf War and the operations in the Bulkans?

    About 15% of US soldiers have reported to be sick. 25,000 have died since. Gulf war veterans were ignored for a long time by the government, but when it got too hard to cover up, they started helping.

    This is the aftermath to the US soldier who were using these weapons. Imagine what the Iraqies have suffered. Since the gulf Birth defects and cancer has increased. (not just in Iraq, but the whole region)

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    Who the hell ordered the use of these weapons?!
    Oh come on now. Those sicknesses could be the result of unknown chemical weapons used by Saddam's forces. I know nothing of the sort of these "Uranium" bullets.

    So now Bush is actually like another Saddam right? That makes no sense at all Majed. You must see the difference between "accident" and "purposely".
     

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    And to where did you get THIS source ??? Al Jazeera ???????????

    No actually, it's a know fact. Even a lot of italian soldiers from the SFOR have died from cancer because of uranium depleted shells.


    ++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++

    That was cheap. I expect better from a law-enforcemmant person.

    As Zlatan said, I answered that.

    and FYI, and all the "voices of reason," not everyone who disagrees with you is "one of them." The issue isn't black and white so stop thinking globally.

    I hope your not like the assholes who claim that the people against the iraqi war are "traitors." Have you forgotten what this country was built on?
    Yep, it's exactly this "Either you're with us or against us" attitude that makes the US so popular in the world.
     

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    And to where did you get THIS source ??? Al Jazeera ???????????
    you dont even know about this?!

    I didn't think you were that much in the dark!

    From Medical reports I've read in Saudi Arabia in one of the leading hospitals/resaerch centers in the region. Birth defects and cancer rates have soared since the gulf war.

    You should do some resaerch yourself... you'll find a lot of Gulf war veteran assosiations.
     

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    Oh come on now. Those sicknesses could be the result of unknown chemical weapons used by Saddam's forces. I know nothing of the sort of these "Uranium" bullets.

    Yeah, thats possible, Iraqi chemical weapons... IN BOSNIA!!!


    And basically, they are like regular shells, except that they have a top thats made out of deplated uranium. Its usually used in anti tank shells, and basically, what it does is, when the shell comes in contact with the armour of an enemy tank the uranium heats up from the inpact so that it goes through the armour like an incredebly hot spear. Laymans explanation. AFAIK, it was used in the Gulf.

    checke here for some more info http://www.serendipity.li/nato/du.htm
     
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    Yeah, thats possible, Iraqi chemical weapons... IN BOSNIA!!!


    And basically, they are like regular shells, except that they have a top thats made out of deplated uranium. Its usually used in anti tank shells, and basically, what it does is, when the shell comes in contact with the armour of an enemy tank the uranium heats up from the inpact so that it goes through the armour like an incredebly hot spear. Laymans explanation. AFAIK, it was used in the Gulf.

    checke here for some more info http://www.serendipity.li/nato/du.htm
    I was of course talking about the cases in Iraq, not Bosnia.
     

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    So now Bush is actually like another Saddam right? That makes no sense at all Majed. You must see the difference between "accident" and "purposely".
    they're not too far apart. though Saddam is worse because he tortures his own people, Bush only lies to them.
     

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    Yeah, I know, but its the same weapons.


    Anyways, uranium depleted shells are a form of chemical weapons.

    When a depleted uranium tipped shell strikes a tank or armored personnel carrier it easily penetrates the armor and burns the crew alive. The impact also vaporizes the depleted uranium, creating an aerosol of radioactive heavy-metal particles which can spread as far as 190 miles on the wind.

    When inhaled or ingested, the depleted uranium particles cause chemical and radioactive damage to the bronchial tree, kidneys, liver and bones. Cancer often results, and the effects can even include genetic damage.

    The Dutch Laka Foundation estimates that the United States terror campaign left behind 300-800 tons of radioactive waste from this [depleted uranium] ammunition all over Kuwait and Iraq — poisoning the air, the land, the water and the people everywhere.

    Afterwards, wherever the depleted uranium firing had been concentrated, there were cancer epidemics among Iraqi civilians living nearby. In the ten years since then, sanctions, polluted water and depleted uranium together have killed somewhere between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 Iraqi civilian people. At least 600,000 of the dead are children. Cancer rates have quadrupled in areas of southern Iraq bombed by the American and British state terrorists.
     
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    No actually, it's a know fact. Even a lot of italian soldiers from the SFOR have died from cancer because of uranium depleted shells.




    Yep, it's exactly this "Either you're with us or against us" attitude that makes the US so popular in the world.
    Yeah. :rolleyes: What country doesn't have that attitude Zlatan? Sweden right? :LOL: It seems they don't give a rat's ass about anything.
     

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    I was of course talking about the cases in Iraq, not Bosnia.
    USA-Bosnia-Iraq.

    Cancer and birth defect rates soar in both regions as soon as their respective wars end. What's the link? you do the math.


    It's tough to comprehend Andy... it give a whole different perspective! :down:
     
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    they're not too far apart. though Saddam is worse because he tortures his own people, Bush only lies to them.
    More like the CIA doesn't have their facts straight.
     

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    USA-Bosnia-Iraq.

    Cancer and birth defect rates soar in both regions as soon as their respective wars end. What's the link? you do the math.
    Bosnia ???

    Wasnt Clinton the prez then ???????? Start throwing some blame HIS way too then.........................
     

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    More like the CIA doesn't have their facts straight.
    Andy, dont make excuses to these guys....

    saddam had WMD but was able to get them into Syria before we got there, like I said before, the Gov knows it, but there hands are tied....
     

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    More like the CIA doesn't have their facts straight.

    Or, Bush told them to to "alter" the facts so he could justify the invasion of Iraq to the world, the US people and the Senate.


    ++ [ originally posted by Vinman ] ++


    Bosnia ???

    Wasnt Clinton the prez then ???????? Start throwing some blame HIS way too then.........................

    Let me quess, you're a republican, right?
     

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    That could be argued either way..

    Bush was tricked by other officials... or Bush made these facts up.
    If you hate Bush so much, does that mean when he wins the next election, you'll leave the US ??? I mean, you hate it so much here, living in a criminal nation...................
     

    Majed

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    You still don't see it do you...

    The imaginary WMD are going to be "transported" around half of the countries in the world to give an excuse to invade!

    I predict Syria is next...Israel are already threatening to attack them....
     

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    Or, Bush told them to to "alter" the facts so he could justify the invasion of Iraq to the world, the US people and the Senate.





    Let me quess, you're a republican, right?
    The blame should go all the way around right.

    Blame Clinton for Bin Laden too, he let him go when we could have arrested him in Sudan back in 1999

    yes, I am a republican
     
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