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[Enron]

And West Virginia a mid level team??

Since when?

He doesn't realize that WVU was one of the original independents. But he knows more about college football than anyone on this forum.

 

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[Bjerknes]

He said mid-major, meaning one of the better teams but not up there with the likes of USC and Texas.

 

[Enron]

He said mid-major, meaning one of the better teams but not up there with the likes of USC and Texas.

That's not what mid-major means.

 

[KB824]

He doesn't realize that WVU was one of the original independents. But he knows more about college football than anyone on this forum.

Yeah, back to when Bobby Bowden was the coach in the 70's

 

[Enron]

Yeah, back to when Bobby Bowden was the coach in the 70's

Back when the VEER was the rage. WHOOOWEEE!

 

[Bjerknes]

That's not what mid-major means.

What does it mean then, all knowing one?

It also holds true throughout history.

 

[KB824]

He said mid-major, meaning one of the better teams but not up there with the likes of USC and Texas.

Mid-Major teams are "powerhouse" teams from lower level conferences, such as BIg Sky, WAC, conferences like that.

A perennial contender from a BCS conference is NOT a mid major team

 

[Bjerknes]

Semantics.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

eh, I said before that mid-major probably wasn't the best term to use for WVU, but I couldn't come up with anything better. I don't see what's so offensive about it anyways, it's somewhat true. They are a solid program who from time to time will win an easy conference. But they'll never be a continuous national power like USC / UF / OSU / OU / Texas, etc.

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

Mid-Major teams are "powerhouse" teams from lower level conferences, such as BIg Sky, WAC, conferences like that.

A perennial contender from a BCS conference is NOT a mid major team

I've always considered "mid-major" more of a basketball term anyways. But it pisses Burke off so it's fun to use here. :evil:

 

[KB824]

eh, I said before that mid-major probably wasn't the best term to use for WVU, but I couldn't come up with anything better. I don't see what's so offensive about it anyways, it's somewhat true. They are a solid program who from time to time will win an easy conference. But they'll never be a continuous national power like USC / UF / OSU / OU / Texas, etc.

Everything goes in cycles. USC for instance in the mid to late 90's were a joke (I know this firsthand) , as were Oklahoma before Bob Stoops got there. Texas couldn't do much of anything before Mack Brown got there.

 

[.zero]

Everything goes in cycles. USC for instance in the mid to late 90's were a joke (I know this firsthand) , as were Oklahoma before Bob Stoops got there. Texas couldn't do much of anything before Mack Brown got there.

bingo

oh and you forgot to mention how ND has blown since the mid 90s even up until now

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

With the amounts of money involved these days it's going to be much more rare to see power programs stay down for long. I really doubt USC will go through a drought like they did in the 90's ever again. There is just too much dough at stake.

 

[Enron]

Semantics.

By your definition Penn State of the late 90s was mid-major.

Mid-major is MAC, C-USA, WAC, Mountain West, etc. Big East is the smallest of the power conferences. Some years it has more quality than the ACC or the Big Ten.

Yes I realize that WVU isn't an elite football program like USC, OK, UT, Florida, or Ohio State. But at the same time neither are 3/4s of the teams in those respective conferences.

To use the word "mid-major" as our friend here did suggests that every team, except the elite team in each conference is a mid-major team. That's pretty much incorrect. The last time I checked UAB and Michigan State weren't exactly on the same level.

 

[Enron]

bingo

oh and you forgot to mention how ND has blown since the mid 90s even up until now

I could watch ND lose all day long.

 

[.zero]

With the amounts of money involved these days it's going to be much more rare to see power programs stay down for long. I really doubt USC will go through a drought like they did in the 90's ever again. There is just too much dough at stake.

money has always been the primary player in all of this.

 

[Bjerknes]

By your definition Penn State of the late 90s was mid-major.

Mid-major is MAC, C-USA, WAC, Mountain West, etc. Big East is the smallest of the power conferences. Some years it has more quality than the ACC or the Big Ten.

Yes I realize that WVU isn't an elite football program like USC, OK, UT, Florida, or Ohio State. But at the same time neither are 3/4s of the teams in those respective conferences.

To use the word "mid-major" as our friend here did suggests that every team, except the elite team in each conference is a mid-major team. That's pretty much incorrect. The last time I checked UAB and Michigan State weren't exactly on the same level.

So conferences like the Mountain West are actually defined as "mid-major"?

 

[Enron]

money has always been the primary player in all of this.

The amount of coin tied up in CFB is ridiculous.

 

[Enron]

So conferences like the Mountain West are actually defined as "mid-major"?

Yes. They aren't major conferences, but they aren't 1AA (or whatever it's called now).

 

[Bjerknes]

I've never heard people calling them that, just non-BCS instead.