Amauri "The Immovable Object" Carvalho de Oliveira (29 Viewers)

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
@naysaiers;
Go ahead and ignore the bulk of my argumentation, only to insist on a non sense, irrelevant "contradiction", that only represents an exception to a general truth/rule. (despite the fact, i ve extensively explained why it is not a contradiction, at least mine...)
I ve used enough argumentation to make my point, history will prove me right sometime in the future.
The childish attempts to discredit me, only because my vision doesnt much to your fool's hopes, has little value to me...
it can only tell me a few words of your being...
I am not interested on winning quarells and make nemesis,
(srry ahmed, you have to find another nemesis to play this game...)
There was no other way to confront with the truth, than insist on the structure of my posts, rather than the meaning of it!
This is how ppl defend them selves, when the truth is too much, for their mind...
They prefer to ignore reality and find any pitiful excuses to hang on...
The fact that no real counter argumentation is thrown, (apart from dule's, whos actual view isnt as far as he initially thought, than mines)only proves my point!!!

@Jack, make i favor to your self and add me to your ignore list, you must also check your pms eventually...


Jack esp has tried many times over to put words in my mouth, presenting my view, as quite the opposite view that reflects his mind. But this is not the case, between black and white, right and wrong, they are too many degrees/nuances to consider. You may disagree with someone at 50.00001% and with someone else at 89.99%, that doesnt mean, those too would agree at 100%, not even at 50%
So before you put me in your ignore list, my last advice to you would be to keep an open mind and dont jump to conclusions...
Trying to be sarcastic and keep repeating the we are doomed quote, that none of the 3 of us ever mentioned is funny, its ridiculous...
There is not only, "we are doomed" and "we will win the CL", kind of ppl in the world, stop trying to put everyone on the same lot...


@Alen, yes, thats my name, thank you!
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,366
@Jack, make i favor to your self and add me to your ignore list, you must also check your pms eventually...


Jack esp has tried many times over to put words in my mouth, presenting my view, as quite the opposite view that reflects his mind. But this is not the case, between black and white, right and wrong, they are too many degrees/nuances to consider. You may disagree with someone at 50.00001% and with someone else at 89.99%, that doesnt mean, those too would agree at 100%, not even at 50%
So before you put me in your ignore list, my last advice to you would be to keep an open mind and dont jump to conclusions...
Trying to be sarcastic and keep repeating the we are doomed quote, that none of the 3 of us ever mentioned is funny, its ridiculous...
There is not only, "we are doomed" and "we will win the CL", kind of ppl in the world, stop trying to put everyone on the same lot...
Ok.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,901
@naysaiers;
Go ahead and ignore the bulk of my argumentation, only to insist on a non sense, irrelevant "contradiction", that only represents an exception to a general truth/rule. (despite the fact, i ve extensively explained why it is not a contradiction, at least mine...)
I ve used enough argumentation to make my point, history will prove me right sometime in the future.
The childish attempts to discredit me, only because my vision doesnt much to your fool's hopes, has little value to me...
it can only tell me a few words of your being...
I am not interested on winning quarells and make nemesis,
(srry ahmed, you have to find another nemesis to play this game...)
There was no other way to confront with the truth, than insist on the structure of my posts, rather than the meaning of it!
This is how ppl defend them selves, when the truth is too much, for their mind...
They prefer to ignore reality and find any pitiful excuses to hang on...
The fact that no real counter argumentation is thrown, (apart from dule's, whos actual view isnt as far as he initially thought, than mines)only proves my point!!!
Doc, in what case you'll be wrong?
You shared your thoughts with us about way too many things. Transfers, team policy, squad selection, the coach, situation in calcio in general etc.
So i wonder how can Secco prove you wrong? What does he need to do to prove you wrong?

I know that you love the team very much and you actually want to be proven wrong, but i wonder how exactly can it be done. Winning serie A and CL? Winning the 2nd place? Making it to the 1/4, 1/2, final of CL? Buying this or that player? Giving more freedom to Ranieri? Replacing Ranieri with another coach? Buying prospective players that will be part of a great Juve after 2,3,4 years?
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
@ Cronios,

you keep going on about you know our future and it looks bad...well let me tell you about the PRESENT:

1 - We are very much in the Scudetto race, only 6 points behind Inter

2 - We topped our CL group convincingly and are now playing against Chelsea in the biggest match of the Champions League knockout stage

3 - Since Ranieri became Coach, we have scored the most goals amongst Italian teams (102 goals, 2 more than Inter)

4 - Last year and again this season, we have the 2nd best defence in Italy

5 - We have concentrated more on the Juventus youth policy and whenever called for duty, the youngsters have performed extremely well

6 - Ranieri has found Chiellini's best position and he is now rightly considered one of the best CBs in the world

7 - Ranieri has rediscovered Nicola Legrottaglie, so long a flop but now a key member of Juventus

8 - Against the remaining big 3 of Italy , our record is 5 wins, 4 draws and 2 defeats (1 in Coppa)...

9 - And Molinaro? he is our most improved player this season and deservedly has the LB starting spot

10 - Secco? has had his questionable signings (Andrade Almiron) but has on the majority greatly increased the depth and quality of a squad decimated by Calciopoli
 

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