A little bit of contradicting here, don't you think? And our board stated a lot of times that they won't even take in consideration selling Giovinco or De Ceglie (during the time we were negotiating with Palermo for Amauri), so your argument that our board were willing to sacrifice them is not valid.
There is no contradiction on my words, but a contradiction on CR's character and role in our team!!
He has never done that before and i was one of the first members that noticed that, pointed it out and applaud it!! I dont hesitate to give credit when someone worth it, (even at Molinaro). I wouldnt mention that, otherwise...
Actually, no.
I really think that it has much more to do with not having enough funds than it has to do with their unwillingness. I really think that we don't have enough money to create a team of 11 great players and especially to pay their wages.
But you said only few posts above that the board wanted to sell Giovinco, De Ceglie and Marchisio but Ranieri vetoed the transfer. You're contradicting yourself now.
I think that they work together and they respect eachother. I also think that they're giving Ranieri a lot of freedom to choose the players he wants. (unlike the popular belief that he's just a YES man and he only accepts what is given to him).
There is always more to it, but each and every single decision, our board has made, post calciopoli, has been greatly affected by our financial limitations!
I dont buy that they are full enough to believe, that all those second rate/cheap players are able to win titles for us. No one is that stupid!!
We are a smaller team, our mentality has chanced accordingly, we hope that free and cheap players will help us go forward, but we are Juventus, we have seen champions, we even have some of them in our ranks. We can make some short of comparisons...
Yeah :xmas: I always have long discussions with you but it's worth it
As black hole in our attack I mean having just Del Piero and Trezeguet is not enough.If Del Piero(let me say again)gets injured Iaquinta can't step in IMO.Iaquinta-Trezeguet is not so good,at least for me.Del Piero is still great even if he's old and Giovinco can take his place when DP is not ready or something.Iaquinta is somewhat in between what we need and what do not need.He can't really be a starter for us and it's pitty to use him as a bench.
Even though I like him I think we should sell him due to high wages and he isn't happy with his current role probably which will happen most likely.
Palladino is not ours anymore and Lanzafame can do as our 5th choice at the moment.Even some top club could use Amauri right now,and not just as a sub.
I don't know what our staff is planning but I can tell you that I wouldn't be surprised if we sell Trezeguet to Real at the end of the season.His price is very high right now and he's top striker of course but he's getting
old and I think our staff would/will consider offers for him this summer.If Amauri keeps playing like this and someone offeres 20mln+ for Trezeguet I think he'd be on his way out.Also,that's one more point of Amauri's transfer...he could be playing instead of Trez next season and then yes,we would sign another forward IF we sell Iaquinta.
Our defense may look like some mid-table club ones but it's not that bad even if you look at the statistics that Alen pointed out.
Juve conceded 13 goals in serie A (17 matches), 4 goals in CL (8 matches), or in total 17 goals on 25 matches..
With playing Molinaro-Chiellini-Legro-Grygera I must say it's just fu#king amazing to see how many goals we actually conceded.I agree Legro plays at his max and I am aware of our defensive errors at times but all clubs have them.Don't get me wrong,I think we need new defenders but it's not that urgent to buy one now at winter market and I am 90% sure we won't buy any till summer.I don't see any reason why to do so,at least right now.I just hope Grygera is not going to get injured because Sali can't play there.Mellberg was good at right but I don't know if he can keep up with those preformances at the right.
We could buy some defender now but we don't have much money I'm afraid and I don't want some decent player there anymore.Now we need just a good/world class one and I believe that's going to happen after the end of the season(at least I hope so).I'd like to see Chiellini-Zapata partnership the next year.
Even our staff stated that we will need like 5 years to look like we did before.
We're getting stronger and stronger and it's hard to fill in all holes we have.Imagine we didn't buy Amauri and we bought some defender.
He might need time and I doubt we'd concide less but we won't be able to score so many goals and our results would be like 0-0,0-1 etc.We have Gio who is great and De Ceglie who is good but I still don't know if we're actually planning to play him as LB or we want him to play in the middle.It's easy to talk about it but it will be hard for our staff if we don't end up with some big :money: at the end of the season.
We have to buy some very good defender or even two but we also need to find Nedved's succesor and that will probably cost a lot.
So far we are not good...but we are damn good.Look at our names and look at Milan's
great names.We ate them...they couldn't do anything.We ripped them,we fu#king destoryed them.They can talk all they want how they didn't have Nesto,Gatusso or someone but it was 4-2 with someone like
Molinaro and
Grygera.
Inter & Milan are strong but considering how times they cheated this year and how they didn't suffer a calcopoli scandal(so far)I think they are just pathetic.We've been through everything.Serie B and finacial breaks but we made it again and came back hungry for titles.That's something they can't do and something they won't do if they go throught the same.
I think we're still title challengers but I don't really expect us to do some good job in Champions League but you can't really complain about it looking at our current team and looking at Chealse or someone.But we're getting there,slowly but surely.
Its always nice to share views with members like your self. I value your logic and argumentation, therefore i miss your presence
Generally, i agree with your points,
(although they sound a tad of optimistic for my taste
)
Generally, i believe that we have enough squad players at the moment, bearing in mind the players, that are bound to return, we should be fine for now. And since we have a financial issue, i would prefer to save this money and start buying lesser in quantity, but greater in quality players. To upgrade/replace places, where we really suffer! Ideally i would prefer tehm to come earlier, so that with the added strenght of our aging champions, we could form a very competitive team. BUT we have already wasted that opportunity and we now have to think of the future, when Treze, Neddy and DP will not be around to make the difference.
Since we wasted so much time and money to squad player, it will be even harder to upgrade our squad players and replace our champions at the same time.
We must be very careful on our next moves and think many seasons ahead!!
A possible sale of Treze, would fund the transfer of a younger forward.
And since our forward line is already extremely stacked up, that would very very very stupid to further allocate more money over there, from our budget!!!
We need o clarify our DM/CM position,but CR should decide what he wants first!!
At the moment, i see no urgent need for replacements either. A target of opportunity and the possible sale of Tiago for a decet sum should be our only concerns there. At LM, we have the abused Neddy, the converted DC, the re-allocated Giovinco and the joker Salih. I trust that Neddy will be able to make it until the end of the year and i am expecting to see a proper relacememnt when he retires, by the end of the year. A pre-contract might be at hand, but nothing more. On the RM, i am worried, since Camo seems extremely fragile and Marchio is by far our worst player this year! Still no urgent need since youngsters like Gio and Ekdall are present in abundance!
Our left flank situation is ridiculous and i refuse to further comment it anymore.
Our right flank is pathetic too, with Zebina crying for a dismiss and Grygera playing his best games after losing his tooth. Hopefully he wont be injured for too long...
On the CB front, Chiellini is extremely reliable and one of Legro and Mellberg will always be available to back him up. But what happens in the rare occasion when Chiellini wont be available due to an suspension? I dont trust the two of them to hold it tight, without the help of of Chiellini and with our flanks totally exposed!
Hopefully, this wont happen in a knock out faze, but here is another calculated risk, we shouldnt assume. Since Andrade was finally delivered and Knezevic proved he is not even good, not even for a 5th choice, let alone for the second choice CB sub. I see this place as the most vulnerable in our squad.
A matter we should take care of, soon. Considering that this is an extremely important place, where we have little to none coverage and the lowest amount of quality players within our team. Makes it the highest priority to take care of.
If we dont have the money to buy any players at all, we should!! We should better keep them and buy a proper, reliable defender, if and when we will ever raise money for him!!
Every other position/place in our squad have a quality starter and some of them have a quality sub too. Each and every other position bar our defense.
When we face a strong team, our weakness is exposed, the numbers might mask it, because of our collective effort as a team, to team up and support our weakest link, but during it is painfully obvious that this is our weakest link!!
To build up front, we should start from the back, what are we going to do with a quality forward and a quality creative midfielder, when we have to use a fully defensive scheme, with 2 defensive wingers and 2 DMs, to cover up for our weak defense. There lies our weakest point, this is supposed to be our first priority, but we are looking to upgrade every other position but this one!!
This is what undermines the efficiency of our team and the efficient
use of a future weapon. This is why i insist that it should be take cared of some long time ago!! If we were buying a better CB, someone good enough to step up and support Chiellini, we would be a much better team by know. With a better confidence, balance and a more efficient use of our creative tools!
keep him going, pretty soon Cronios will contradict everything he has said in his magnum opus
I never contradicted my self about anything, my point have been always crystal clear and i ve always cared to explain my views to the smallest detail.
I do not have to apologize to anyone about anything.
It is very well known, that i rarely ever change an opinion, that was pathetic attempt to undermine me and i consider it a personal assault!!
You are been provocative on personal level, again and again, for absolutely no reason,
concentrate your argumentation (if any) on the post and not the poster,
if you have anything useful to add, otherwise let the talk to the bigger boys...
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