Amauri Carvalho de Oliveira (5 Viewers)

At what cost would you be ok with Amauri?

  • Giovinco + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + Giovinco

  • Nocerino + Almiron + Marchionni

  • Almiron + Marchionni + cash

  • Fuck no, don't want him at all

  • Almiron+cash


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Apr 6, 2008
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Lol ... two goals from Amauri .... what can I say more? We gotta take him as soon as we can. But 4 strikers? Del Piero, Trezeguet, Iaquinta and Amauri? Isn't that too much? Maybe we should be thinking more for defensive and midfield players..
 

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Mark

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One of them will be gone PERMENANTLY, I promise you that. There's no doubt in my mind that Palermo will ask for an incredible amount of money in addition to some extremely promising youngsters for Amauri. The board will say, "Yeah, we're down," and jump at the chance to sign him, while the defence will continue to rot. It'll be awesome to see Amauri screaming for service next year because Juventus will have spent all of their transfer budget on him and could not have purchased a good creative force.
Secco shouldn't even think about this. It's for his own good.
 
Apr 6, 2008
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It is impossible to play 4 2 4 with three tanks. 3 of the players are having aerial abilities and Del Piero is now old and counts more on anticipation and technical performances than on speed.
 

Morra10

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Apr 30, 2006
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fuck amauri. He could score 20 goals for all I care, the price tag for him is absolutely ridiculous. The funny thing is that it probably went up after this performance......
 
Apr 6, 2008
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fuck amauri. He could score 20 goals for all I care, the price tag for him is absolutely ridiculous. The funny thing is that it probably went up after this performance......
Unfortunately, I have to agree with u! Now Juve management will be more likely to sign him even for higher price.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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But 4 strikers? Del Piero, Trezeguet, Iaquinta and Amauri? Isn't that too much?
It's not. 4 is the minimum.
We always had at least 4 attackers, dunno why is it such a problem now.
Milan have Inzaghi, Gilardino, Pato, Ronaldo + Paloschi
Inter have Suazo, Crespo, Zlatan, Cruz, Ballotelli.


The ONLY bad thing about Amauri is that he'll take one big part of our transfer money. Or that's only smthg that we assume ?

None of us has an idea how much money we have and that's why we don't really have arguments to be for or against this transfer.
We'll see after the transfer window ends.

But if we do have enough money to cover all the needed areas, then it's really hard to understand not to like Amauri in Juve.
 

C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
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The likely sales of Tiago and Almiron will raise £12m. Add 2 player's, and its a done deal. The price of Amauri can be covered with player sales + swaps, so wasting our mercato budget isn't an issue, imo.

My only concern is that we dont include De Ceglie, Marchisio or Giovinco, but there are many other potential players we could include that would interest Palermo so Im not to worried.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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The likely sales of Tiago and Almiron will raise £12m. Add 2 player's, and its a done deal. The price of Amauri can be covered with player sales + swaps, so wasting our mercato budget isn't an issue, imo.
I believe that Tiago, Almiron and the 2 players you mentioned are actually part of our mercato budget.
Maybe 1/4 of our transfer budget.
 

vimo

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Apr 1, 2006
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It's not. 4 is the minimum.
We always had at least 4 attackers, dunno why is it such a problem now.
Milan have Inzaghi, Gilardino, Pato, Ronaldo + Paloschi
Inter have Suazo, Crespo, Zlatan, Cruz, Ballotelli.


The ONLY bad thing about Amauri is that he'll take one big part of our transfer money. Or that's only smthg that we assume ?

None of us has an idea how much money we have and that's why we don't really have arguments to be for or against this transfer.
We'll see after the transfer window ends.

But if we do have enough money to cover all the needed areas, then it's really hard to understand not to like Amauri in Juve.
agree wholeheartedly. The big question mark is related to his price. I mean, he's not bad, everybody knows that. He's in his prime years, performs pretty well usually (look at today :confused: ) and if supported by more and better balls, he can surely improve a bit too. BUT the question is how much he's worth for us. I'm pretty sure those 20mio won't be reached. I don't rate myself a specialist but everybody knows that for 20mio, you can get sth else... I think we'll do something like 10+ a young player. Nocerino for example, or sth like that. Maybe palla on loan. I mean, there have been written pages and pages about it... it's no use philosophizing about what could be and what not
I'd just be careful as to write off the likes of palla too early. With nocerino too, i mean he's having a horrible time, but i think he'll improve and come to the level of a gattuso one day. but the fact that we have sissoko in that position makes him a little useless at this point.
 
Apr 6, 2008
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It's not. 4 is the minimum.
We always had at least 4 attackers, dunno why is it such a problem now.
Milan have Inzaghi, Gilardino, Pato, Ronaldo + Paloschi
Inter have Suazo, Crespo, Zlatan, Cruz, Ballotelli.


The ONLY bad thing about Amauri is that he'll take one big part of our transfer money. Or that's only smthg that we assume ?

None of us has an idea how much money we have and that's why we don't really have arguments to be for or against this transfer.
We'll see after the transfer window ends.

But if we do have enough money to cover all the needed areas, then it's really hard to understand not to like Amauri in Juve.
Yeah I know that 4 is the minimum but all this are top strikers who will want to play regularly.... Not a single player can maintain a good form without playing regularly..
Instead of getting Amauri we should go for another striker, younger and more perespective.... maybe we should get back Paolucci. He is having a future. Milan have Inzaghi (old), Gilardino ( inconsistent ), Pato (young), Ronaldo ( all the time injured ), Paloschi (young)
The situation in Inter is different. Chrespo and Cruz (old), Zlatan (bitch but fairly a good player), Ballotelli ( young starlet) , Suazo (road runner and a good player)

the thing is that Milan and Inter are having different variants in attack. Some of their players are having aerial abilities, the others are having very good speed and dribbling. This is giving them a lot of options to choose from.

If we have those 4 strikers - Trezequet, Iaquinta, Amauri and Del Piero we will have to play aerial football all the time. We all know that the different teams are having different players and weaknesses. We will strugle also if we play in Europe. Amauri is a good player but we must look for other players that will fill the empty places.

All I am saying is that one fast player with good dribble and precise shoot can change more things than the signing of Amauri
 

vimo

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Apr 1, 2006
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another fact is that we somehow need to spend our money too. It may sound dumb, but who else do you want to spend money on? If we can't get diego or huntelaar for example, because real is just unbeatable or because they don't want to change team... amauri may be the next best thing for our offense department. and then, we need to splash the cash to get 'someone'. Don't get me wrong, i agree with not spending too much on one player, but revolutionizing our squad isn't necessary and won't do us any good. we need to pick some high quality players, and of course those players will cost us something. whether or not amauri is that kind of 'quality player' we are looking for is another question.
 

C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
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I believe that Tiago, Almiron and the 2 players you mentioned are actually part of our mercato budget.
Maybe 1/4 of our transfer budget.
That's possible, but I still think we have a usefull enough piece of cash not tied to player sales that compromises our transfer budget.

Also, the sale of Tiago and Almiron will free up some salary room (€2.6m a year and €1.7m respectively), and I cant see their replacements making the same (assuming its Cigarini and Marchisio). Plus Birindelli and Olivera will be gone, and each earns €1m season. If De Ceglie is the only fullback brought in, he wont make nearly as much as Birindelli.

Boumsong was our highest paid defender at €2.5m a year, and I dont think Mellberg will receive the same b/c they wont want Chiellini asking for more.

Also, Del Piero's contract extension has him making less than he did at the beginning of the season. (from €4.8m a yr to €3.5)

Also, qualifying for the CL guarantee's u around €20m, not including success past the group stage or increased revenue from merchandise (Juventini will want to upgrade their CL jersey's from 2 seasons ago)

I still think Amauri can be purchased with players sales and swaps (where more salary room will be cut if it involves players not discussed above), and we will still have a decent enough transfer budget to settle w/e co-owned players we plan on bringing back and signing another midfielder.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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Lol ... two goals from Amauri .... what can I say more? We gotta take him as soon as we can. But 4 strikers? Del Piero, Trezeguet, Iaquinta and Amauri? Isn't that too much? Maybe we should be thinking more for defensive and midfield players..
I say get Amauri, BUT not at the cost of Giovinco, too hot of a prospect. If anything, I would be offloading Iaquinta. Our "super sub" was not so super today. Besides we got our defensive midfield (Sissoko) with Zanetti as backup. We need midfield players, but we also need someone up top that can create his own goals. Trez cant really if he isnt positioned in the "ideal" position for a shot. Amauri looked well against us, not sure how he would do up against a better defense. I dont really think 4 is too much.
 
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