Amauri Carvalho de Oliveira (33 Viewers)

At what cost would you be ok with Amauri?

  • Giovinco + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + cash

  • De Ceglie + Criscito + Giovinco

  • Nocerino + Almiron + Marchionni

  • Almiron + Marchionni + cash

  • Fuck no, don't want him at all

  • Almiron+cash


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Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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If we get Amauri, we will offload Iaquinta, or more probably Palla, anyway you look it, it sux,
if we offload Palla, then we give up on our future hopes, for very little cash, because no would spend big for our 4th choice sub. The average age of our forwards will raise up a great deal, all of our forwards will be above 30 and Amauri himself will be 28 next year, that means that in a couple of years we will have to buy a whole new attack. Forwards are the most expensive players and we will only have the the money to buy second rate ones, to feel our roster.Another problem would be, the great competition and whining within our team, 2 of DP, Amauri and Iaquinta would be constantly subs and one of them would get to play as often as Palla plays for now. Who would accept that???
What was the strategical plan on Iaquinta???

If we offload Iaquinta, that would cancel our current transfer period completely, we supposed to bring him in, because will believe him in him, for being a "great champion" and then we offload him in the next year for an unproven to big game player... offloading Iaquinta in a ridiculous price would be a double waste of money that compromise both this and the next season transfer strategy...

vimo, are you joking right??????
we dont have where to, spend our money??????
How about for the places we actually dont have some decent first or back up choices??
How about some proper wing backs and a real world class CB that would help us build a solid defense for a change.
How about a winger to replace the everlasting Neddy??
Or how about an AMF, to solve our creativity problems, just check our transfer threads for a few suggestions!

If we solve all of our real problems and we still have money to buy a forward, then we should look for a young CF, not another SS since with have an abundance of them, someone young enough who wouldnt care to be Treze's sub and promising enough to replace him in 2-3 years!
 

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Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Guys guys, If we have to purchase every single player that scores against us then it'll look like we're in a potato business.

It's hilarious how some of you are asking for him just because he scored two goals tonight against us. Foggia has scored two goals against us, does that mean that we should purchase him? C'mon.

I have nothing against Amauri, he isn't a useless player at all, but this traditional idea should be changed, purchasing any player that plays well against us.

Cronios has explained it pretty much anyway.
 

Zaim

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Dec 1, 2007
1,307
It would only make sense if we'll play with 3 strikers. Del Piero as the trequartista behind Amauri and Trez. Otherwise its pointless, because you cant bench Del Piero yet and a big money buy like Amauri neither. Not to mention the situation of Iaquinta.
 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
Good point Zaim... but not only that, for the cash that we could spend on him, we better get a defender or midfielder which IMO is needed much more than Amauri who isn't better than Iaquinta IMHO.
 

C4ISR

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Dec 18, 2005
2,362
Guys guys, If we have to purchase every single player that scores against us then it'll look like we're in a potato business.

It's hilarious how some of you are asking for him just because he scored two goals tonight against us. Foggia has scored two goals against us, does that mean that we should purchase him? C'mon.

I have nothing against Amauri, he isn't a useless player at all, but this traditional idea should be changed, purchasing any player that plays well against us.

Cronios has explained it pretty much anyway.
It's not a matter of people changing their opinion because of 1 good performance (although some probably have). Amauri was always a good player and his performance tonight showed this.

Amauri was playing alone upfront for most of the game against 1 of the best defenses in the league in terms of goals against, and scored 2 nice goals.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
I hope he answered his critics today, I've seen ridiculous things being said in these forums about him(eg, Gila is better than him).
 

David01

Senior Member
Aug 20, 2006
2,825
Amauri is one of the best strikers in Italy no doubt about it, that isn't going to change even tough some wanckers here seem to think otherwise. However I don't think we should give them our youngsters like De Ceglie, Marchisio and certainly not Giovincio
Go get Amauri but not at any price
 

Luca

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Apr 22, 2007
12,750
Amauri is one of the best strikers in Italy no doubt about it, that isn't going to change even tough some wanckers here seem to think otherwise. However I don't think we should give them our youngsters like De Ceglie, Marchisio and certainly not Giovincio
Go get Amauri but not at any price
:agree: We should get him only if we pay cash, not absolutly loads, 15m for me is a fair amount. But we should not trade any of our young players for him, it would be managerial suicide
 

David01

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Aug 20, 2006
2,825
:agree: We should get him only if we pay cash, not absolutly loads, 15m for me is a fair amount. But we should not trade any of our young players for him, it would be managerial suicide
that would be ideal but somehow I doubt we have enough cash to lure him away from Palermo, we do have players who are obsolete like Almiron, Tiago maybe Marchionni, Criscito...
 
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Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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  • Thread Starter
  • Thread Starter #1,013
    Camoranesi Sissoko Zanetti?
    _________Del Piero
    _____Trezeguet Amauri

    :bow:

    There's so much football in there!
     

    Dostoevsky

    Tzu
    Administrator
    May 27, 2007
    88,993
    If we get Amauri, we will offload Iaquinta, or more probably Palla, anyway you look it, it sux,
    if we offload Palla, then we give up on our future hopes, for very little cash, because no would spend big for our 4th choice sub. The average age of our forwards will raise up a great deal, all of our forwards will be above 30 and Amauri himself will be 28 next year, that means that in a couple of years we will have to buy a whole new attack. Forwards are the most expensive players and we will only have the the money to buy second rate ones, to feel our roster.Another problem would be, the great competition and whining within our team, 2 of DP, Amauri and Iaquinta would be constantly subs and one of them would get to play as often as Palla plays for now. Who would accept that???
    What was the strategical plan on Iaquinta???

    If we offload Iaquinta, that would cancel our current transfer period completely, we supposed to bring him in, because will believe him in him, for being a "great champion" and then we offload him in the next year for an unproven to big game player... offloading Iaquinta in a ridiculous price would be a double waste of money that compromise both this and the next season transfer strategy...

    vimo, are you joking right??????
    we dont have where to, spend our money??????
    How about for the places we actually dont have some decent first or back up choices??
    How about some proper wing backs and a real world class CB that would help us build a solid defense for a change.
    How about a winger to replace the everlasting Neddy??
    Or how about an AMF, to solve our creativity problems, just check our transfer threads for a few suggestions!

    If we solve all of our real problems and we still have money to buy a forward, then we should look for a young CF, not another SS since with have an abundance of them, someone young enough who wouldnt care to be Treze's sub and promising enough to replace him in 2-3 years!
    First of all we do need another striker and we must buy someone but yeah,there are some other places that needs to be covered as well.

    So far,Cronion,I don`t see any good reason to keep Palladino.He didn`t prove himself this year.He played everywhere and he had maybe just one decent match where he showed some moves and creativity.Over all I see his situation as

    1)Ranieri doesn`t know how to use him

    2)He is over rated

    I use to believe first one though.Anyway,having him next year in our team is useless if he doesn`t improve and chances for that are not that good I think.

    I`ll say it one more time.Next year we are in Champions league and we`ll play much more (important) matches.I don`t want to risk losing Trez or Del Piero for some injury,especially Del Piero.Most of the season without him we just looked clueless and couldn`t do anything up front.Iaquinta plays good sometimes,sometimes he`s invisible.So that`s why we need one more good striker.

    Del Piero will be even older next year so we`ll need to rest him sometimes and that means everyone would get his chance.And sometimes we could play with three of them up front. :xfinger: Personally I think we`ll sell Palladino since Iaquinta was much better this season.Maybe even some co-ownership,who knows.

    We need to some other places to cover but remember what our staff said after all.They have big hopes on Mellberg and he`ll probably be in our first 11 and I think sadly,we won`t buy any other CB.Giovinco will rotate with Nedved and I think he`ll do great there.

    We don`t have much other options to buy.Probably we`ll end up with some MC but God knows who will that be.

    Also,I don`t see the point by saying he`s risky singing.Just tell me,who isn`t?

    Looking by the fact that he plays for "small club" is not that good idea I guess.Why do you think some others like Benzema,Huntelaar or Gomez would not be risky?Plus,Amauri is the only who we want with Serie A experience.

    We are not after that many strikers anyway.

    Huntelaar-He`s potential but don`t you think he`s over priced a bit as well?Ajax wants a lot for plus EPL are interested in him!That means his price can go double and not to mention the wages he`d get.

    Gomez-Good and cheaper then Amauri (if we`re to believe media) but also,many clubs are after him.And I don`t think he`d fit to play next to Trezeguet.

    Amauri will be 28 next summer but he can play 4 more years.Even though some clubs like Roma and Milan want him I think we`re in pole position to get him.Price is a problem but we have tons of useless player that we could give + add some :money: of course.

    But I do agree that we need to find Trez`s replacement.But not this soon.First we need to make some good team and then invest in youngsters.Personally I`d go for Benzema.
     

    Cronios

    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
    27,519
    First of all we do need another striker and we must buy someone but yeah,there are some other places that needs to be covered as well.

    So far,Cronion,I don`t see any good reason to keep Palladino.He didn`t prove himself this year.He played everywhere and he had maybe just one decent match where he showed some moves and creativity.Over all I see his situation as

    1)Ranieri doesn`t know how to use him

    2)He is over rated

    I use to believe first one though.Anyway,having him next year in our team is useless if he doesn`t improve and chances for that are not that good I think.

    I`ll say it one more time.Next year we are in Champions league and we`ll play much more (important) matches.I don`t want to risk losing Trez or Del Piero for some injury,especially Del Piero.Most of the season without him we just looked clueless and couldn`t do anything up front.Iaquinta plays good sometimes,sometimes he`s invisible.So that`s why we need one more good striker.

    Del Piero will be even older next year so we`ll need to rest him sometimes and that means everyone would get his chance.And sometimes we could play with three of them up front. :xfinger: Personally I think we`ll sell Palladino since Iaquinta was much better this season.Maybe even some co-ownership,who knows.

    We need to some other places to cover but remember what our staff said after all.They have big hopes on Mellberg and he`ll probably be in our first 11 and I think sadly,we won`t buy any other CB.Giovinco will rotate with Nedved and I think he`ll do great there.

    We don`t have much other options to buy.Probably we`ll end up with some MC but God knows who will that be.

    Also,I don`t see the point by saying he`s risky singing.Just tell me,who isn`t?

    Looking by the fact that he plays for "small club" is not that good idea I guess.Why do you think some others like Benzema,Huntelaar or Gomez would not be risky?Plus,Amauri is the only who we want with Serie A experience.

    We are not after that many strikers anyway.

    Huntelaar-He`s potential but don`t you think he`s over priced a bit as well?Ajax wants a lot for plus EPL are interested in him!That means his price can go double and not to mention the wages he`d get.

    Gomez-Good and cheaper then Amauri (if we`re to believe media) but also,many clubs are after him.And I don`t think he`d fit to play next to Trezeguet.

    Amauri will be 28 next summer but he can play 4 more years.Even though some clubs like Roma and Milan want him I think we`re in pole position to get him.Price is a problem but we have tons of useless player that we could give + add some :money: of course.

    But I do agree that we need to find Trez`s replacement.But not this soon.First we need to make some good team and then invest in youngsters.Personally I`d go for Benzema.
    I agree the situation on Palla is tragic and esp if CR stays one more year,
    maybe that would be better for him to move on.

    Sacrificing Palla or Almiron or Nocerino or Tiago for Amauri is acceptable, along with a maximum fee of 10-15mil (as long as we take care our first priorities first though)
    But i doubt Zamparini is that stupid, i actually think he is smarter than our managers and i am afraid we are going to get owned again, we will either drop one or two very promising youngsters, or we will spend most of our transfer budget to get Amauri. Palermo has many offers, they dont have to step back, not even a bit and Amauri probably costs more than we can currently offer, without a heavy sacrifice.

    Huntelaar would be the ideal move, he was cheaper than Amauri, younger than Amauri, he can happily sit on the bench a couple of years until he fully adapts and some of our champions up front retire, he also plays as CF, not as SS like Amauri does, and bar Treze, we only have SSs. Tactical Hunter isnt a priority, but strategically, he makes a great sense. BUT unfortunately Real seems to be really interested on him and we cant compete with them, we never did, we never will...
    thats why, we must find players, similar to the Hunter's profile, esp at position, age and price tag!

    I see that we have 3 world champions in our attack to cover 2 positions,
    those guys can effectively play a couple more years,
    it is not a priority to buy a new forward now, since there are places, like the LB, which we only have Molinaro and absolutely no back up,
    IF we buy two LBs, one LM, one CM, one CB first, then and only then, we can go ahead and make some fine tunings up front.
    Buying a new forward will be a priority next year, our attack can wait one more year, our defense CANT !
    When all of our starting eleven places reach Treze-DP-Iaquinta quality, then and only then we can start worrying about back ups and even better players than them!
    If and when we bring a forward, he should be young enough to go 3-4 years beyond our current 3 strikers.
    Thats why i said, it was a mistake to buy Iaquinta this year, we should buy Amauri instead, now our choice is made and we need to look forward to some other problems we have, quick fixes, like free players are no proper investments.

    IMO we should spend our cash to buy starters in the places we suffer the most and bring a free forward as a back up or a promising one, as investment!
    We only field eleven players in a game, there is no point fielding Treze+Amuri and also having DP+Iaquinta on the bench, while having Legro, Molinaro, Mellberg and Grygera at the back.

    I would also go as far, as to suggest that we should replace some injury prone, squad players, like Marchionni, Zebina and probably Andrade before getting interested on further tuning our attack.
    We are not Real, when they have any kind of problem, they just buy another forward, we are Juventus and we used to be a healthy and wise club!!!
     

    Luca

    Senior Member
    Apr 22, 2007
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    :tup: yes you are right but i don't agree with the last part Marchionni, Zebina and Andrade make good squad players so we shouldn't need to replace them, it would be a waste of time and money
     

    Cronios

    Juventolog
    Jun 7, 2004
    27,519
    I admit that i mentioned them, as an extreme example of making my point, their use was mainly reitorical.
    They are not a priority and i dint mean them as such, but they are our main back up solutions, that are are never really available to help!!
    I meant, that at least at the offense if DP or Treze gets suspended or Injured, there is always Iaquinta to step up and fill his shoes.
    But on the RM position as example, when Camo was injured, Marchio was absent!!
    At the RB, when Grugera sucked, Zebina was absent.

    We had to field Noce and Salih for those places, we had no other choice, in my eyes this is slightly a bigger problem than having a 4th choice up front!
    Thats what i meant, Zebi, Marchio and Andrade, are all fine choices as squad players, tactically, but history proved, that they are never present when needed, more like Tudor.
    Right after, we build a strong first eleven squad, we must also take care of this problem in the future, i rate the forward situation in the same level of priorities, thats what i meant, these are minor fine tunings, meant to be resolved after we build the backbone of our starting eleven!
     
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