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Mar 9, 2006
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Age RUS, it's important. One player is in the prime of his career, the other isn't. Most players have their best years from about 23/24-29/30. There are obviously exceptions, but this is generally the case.

Immobile = in the prime of his career

Morata = 1-2 years away from the prime of his career

Hence we can expect more improvement from a young Morata, than Ciro. Obviously. Very simple.

Do you want a list of players who were better at 25 than they were at 22? It includes pretty much every single star to every play the game.

Fuck. This is so retarded. How can you not understand such simple things? :sergio:
The prime of the career of the many and many footballers was the period from 27 til 31 years when they showed their best football, wtf are you talking about :lol:

I can name you a lot of players who were amazing at 18-22 and became shit in their late 20s so what? :lol: each case is different - you need to catch the momentum, how many bright young stars fell into oblivion after 25 years? a hundred thousand trillion, you need right team, right coach, avoiding the injuries and 100000 different factors that will help you to grow up into the world's best player, and if BVB had the problem only in Immobile ofc i would agree with all this bullshit but when 23 of their 25 players are underfuckingperfoming badly you can't put the blame on the 1 of them that scored 10 fucking goals atleast, while Kagawa, Kuba, Sahin, Gundogan have scored 4 or 5 or so all together

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are you seriously gonna debate that Parma is worse than a BL2 or BL3 team? :lol:
have you seen Sassuolo against Parma? Rewatch it, from time to time i was thinking i that it's my home squad from the russian division 2 were playing against Sassuolo
 

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Juventino[RUS];4850449 said:
The prime of the career of the many and many footballers was the period from 27 til 31 years when they show their best football, wtf are you talking about :lol:

I can name you a lot of players who were amazing at 18-22 and became $#@! in their late 20s so what? :lol: each case is different - you need to catch the momentum, how many bright young stars fell into oblivion after 25 years? a hundred thousand trillion

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have you seen Sassuolo against Parma? Rewatch it, from time to time i was thinking i that it's my home squad from teh russians division 2 were playing against Sassuolo
Honest question. Do you have a learning disability?

I said prime is 23/24 - 29/30.

You said 27-31. Most of your stated time falls within the time period I said.

Second. I'm glad you agree with us about Immobile now. His prime was last year. At 24. It's over now. He's in decline. Old age is catching up to him. :lol:
 

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this season, chelsea bought costa, barca bought suarez, united loaned falcao, arsenal bought sanchez, even atletico bought madzukic

I asked [MENTION=5409]Juventino[RUS][/MENTION] before : why didn't they get immobile if he's world class?
 
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Honest question. Do you have a learning disability?

I said prime is 23/24 - 29/30.

You said 27-31. Most of your stated time falls within the time period I said.

Second. I'm glad you agree with us about Immobile now. His prime was last year. At 24. It's over now. He's in decline. Old age is catching up to him. :lol:
Ronaldo's prime - 27-31 (obviously he started to regress and he have 1 or probably 2 seasons with this amount of goals)
Zidane's prime - 27-31
Platini's prime - 27-31
and the list goes on
 

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this season, chelsea bought costa, barca bought suarez, united loaned falcao, arsenal bought sanchez, even atletico bought madzukic

I asked [MENTION=5409]Juventino[RUS][/MENTION] before : why didn't they get immobile if he's world class?
Especially considering he was available for 20 million. Talk about a great deal. World class striker, in the prime of his career, for 20 million.
 

zizinho

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Juventino[RUS];4850456 said:
Ronaldo's prime - 27-31 (obviously he started to regress and he have 1 or probably 2 seasons with this amount of goals)
Zidane's prime - 27-31
Platini's prime - 27-31
and the list goes on
wait, you mean C. Ronaldo? the guy won a balon dor in 2008 when he was 23 scoring 42 goals as a winger. you think his prime started 4 years after that?
 

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Juventino[RUS];4850456 said:
Ronaldo's prime - 27-31 (obviously he started to regress and he have 1 or probably 2 seasons with this amount of goals)
Zidane's prime - 27-31
Platini's prime - 27-31
and the list goes on

Lionel Messi. Only 27 now. 4 Ballon D'Ors already. First one at 22.
Cristiano Ronaldo. Just turned 30. 3 Ballon D'Ors already. First one at 23.
 
Mar 9, 2006
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this season, chelsea bought costa, barca bought suarez, united loaned falcao, arsenal bought sanchez, even atletico bought madzukic

I asked [MENTION=5409]Juventino[RUS][/MENTION] before : why didn't they get immobile if he's world class?
Because big squads are signing big names, because their fans wont accept the transfers of Immobile when their beloved squad have 40m to sign Costa, 75m to sign Suarez and so on, they need players that proved themselves on the european arena and on the international level, while Immobile has shined only in the calcio only
 

zizinho

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Juventino[RUS];4850462 said:
Because big squads are signing big names, because their fans wont accept the transfers of Immobile when their beloved squad have 40m to sign Costa, 75m to sign Suarez and so on, they need players that proved themselves on the european arena and on the international level, while Immobile has shined only in the calcio only
so you are saying he is not WC then?
 

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Juventino[RUS];4850462 said:
Because big squads are signing big names, because their fans wont accept the transfers of Immobile when their beloved squad have 40m to sign Costa, 75m to sign Suarez and so on, they need players that proved themselves on the european arena and on the international level, while Immobile has shined only in the calcio only
Why'd PSG buy Cavani for 63 million? He only shined in the Calcio?

Jovetic to ManCity?

Cuadrado to Chelsea?

Sanchez to Barca?

Benatia to Bayern?

Etc.
 
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Lionel Messi. Only 27 now. 4 Ballon D'Ors already. First one at 22.
Cristiano Ronaldo. Just turned 30. 3 Ballon D'Ors already. First one at 23.
Ronaldo and especially Lionel Messi are out of this world, their numbers don't lie
Owen won his ballon d'or at the age of 22 too and was playing for stoke at the age of 30, so what? Ballon d'or is the shit trophy and doesn't prove anything
 

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Juventino[RUS];4850469 said:
Ronaldo and especially Lionel Messi are out of this world, their numbers don't lie
Owen won his ballon d'or at the age of 22 too and was playing for stoke at the age of 30, so what? Ballon d'or is the $#@! trophy and doesn't prove anything
:sergio:

Injuries played no part at all in Michael Owen's decline. :sergio:
 
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Why'd PSG buy Cavani for 63 million? He only shined in the Calcio?
PSG has signed a lot of players from the calcio because of Leonardo and only because of him and his connections, everyone knows it but you act like you didn't know it

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:sergio:

Injuries played no part at all in Michael Owen's decline. :sergio:
And i said nothing about avoiding the injuries few posts before :lol:
 

zizinho

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Juventino[RUS];4850472 said:
PSG has signed a lot of players from the calcio because of Leonardo and only because of him and his connections, everyone knows it but you act like you didn't know it
what about the others then?
 

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