Alvaro Morata (87 Viewers)

[icemaη]

Created the opener and Scored a brace that saved our season and people try to say it was luck

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Only retards dislike this guy. He’s never going to be a consistent world class striker that carries or leads the attack, but he’s always been a very productive striker for us and is a great piece of a top level attack partnered with the right wingers/secondary strikers.

I’d been pretty annoyed with his attitude the last couple months, yet once again this guy came through in the clutch and his goals got us back into champions league. Saved this club tens of millions. On his 5 mil wages. Lol. I said he needed to show something before the end of the season again, and this was it. Immense.

One less goal contribution than Dybala's best season, one more than his second best. And almost all his goals were either the first or second goals of the game (I counted two, including the second vs Bologna as a stat padding goal in Serie A and there were a couple in the Coppa I think). Not to mention the six goals in the Champions League. Sure I'd love for him to be consistent. Even without the consistency, his contributions have been immense. Points earned in the first half of the season are as valuable as the ones in the second half of the season.

I'd love for him to stop flopping around so much though. When the season started I thought he had turned a page, was standing on his feet even during rough challenges. But as the season progressed, he started going back to the Morata of old and started falling at the barest contact.

 

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[Post Ironic]

One less goal contribution than Dybala's best season, one more than his second best. And almost all his goals were either the first or second goals of the game (I counted two, including the second vs Bologna as a stat padding goal in Serie A and there were a couple in the Coppa I think). Not to mention the six goals in the Champions League. Sure I'd love for him to be consistent. Even without the consistency, his contributions have been immense. Points earned in the first half of the season are as valuable as the ones in the second half of the season.

Played over 400 minutes less than Dybala’s best season too.

When looking at his entire body of work this year, he clearly had a very good season, and far outproduced his 5 mil net wages for us. It’s too bad he isn’t more consistent year-round, but then he’d be worth 100mil and getting wages of 15 mil net and we couldn’t afford him. Unless we are getting a Haaland level forward to lead our attack, it would probably be pretty stupid not to renew his loan.

The 10 mil loan is really no different, and likely cheaper than spending 50+ mil on a guy like Icardi if we lose Morata. Icardi is 28 and would be 32 in four years and have zero resale value. So we’d be spending over 12 mil/season in transfer fee on any striker like that.

 

[s4tch]

....I'd love for him to stop flopping around so much though. When the season started I thought he had turned a page, was standing on his feet even during rough challenges. But as the season progressed, he started going back to the Morata of old and started falling at the barest contact.

that virus infection affected him badly physically.

 

[Dominic]

No Ronaldo, Morata scores a brace.

I repeat: not a coincidence. Morata is afraid to play with Ronaldo on the pitch.

 

[pavelnel]

20 goals, 12 assist for 5 million per year - very good ROI, if you ask me. Keep him.

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[Adrian]

Approx 250k per goal...ronaldo is approx 833k per goal this season LOL.

 

[lgorTudor]

Morty

 

[Strickland]

20 goals, 12 assist for 5 million per year - very good ROI, if you ask me. Keep him.

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his cost however is 17m/year or something like that, with the loan fee 10m + 5m wages with whatever taxes are applied to workers coming in from abroad. still overall I think he has done much better than expected and it was a good deal

 

[swag]

Never once regretted bringing him back this season

 

[Post Ironic]

his cost however is 17m/year or something like that, with the loan fee 10m + 5m wages with whatever taxes are applied to workers coming in from abroad. still overall I think he has done much better than expected and it was a good deal

Are we pretending that any striker we buy doesn’t have a transfer fee that has to be put on top of their wages too?

As I said above, if we buy someone like Icardi, you’re looking at 40-60 mil plus much higher wages. That 40-50 mil works out to 10-15 mil a year if he can manage to remain here for 4 years until he’s 32-33 years old, at which point his resale value would be nil.

Getting a 27 year old Morata last summer on a 10 mil loan/year for two years is a great deal when there is no responsibility to spend the extra 35 mil to buy him at the end.

The only better option is a young world class CF, but we don’t have the money for that.

 

[Strickland]

Are we pretending that any striker we buy doesn’t have a transfer fee that has to be put on top of their wages too?

surely not, it's just that Morata in the post I quoted and in general is viewed as this cheap option, however his yearly cost is rather big.

F.e. Napoli signed Osimhen last summer for 70m from Lille and spreading that over the contract period and taking into account his lower salary compared to Alvaro, Osimhen's yearly cost is very similar to Morata's. now I'm not saying I'd rather have the Nigerian, just pointing out that Morata isn't a cheap option at all, you wouldn't call Osimhen a cheap deal for Napoli f.e., even if in the end it's very likely he'll generate some resale value for Naples

 

[Post Ironic]

surely not, it's just that Morata in the post I quoted and in general is viewed as this cheap option, however his yearly cost is rather big.

F.e. Napoli signed Osimhen last summer for 70m from Lille and spreading that over the contract period and taking into account his lower salary compared to Alvaro, Osimhen's yearly cost is very similar to Morata's. now I'm not saying I'd rather have the Nigerian, just pointing out that Morata isn't a cheap option at all, you wouldn't call Osimhen a cheap deal for Napoli f.e., even if in the end it's very likely he'll generate some resale value for Naples

I think I just said I’d be happy with a young world class/on the brink of world class CF replacing Morata. I didn’t pay much attention to Napoli this year and don’t really know what Osimhen did, but if he fits the above I’d be happy with that type of player.

It’s only that I don’t see us being able to afford a 70 mil transfer fee hit while also fixing our midfield and leftback quandary. So I’d rather ditch one of Ronaldo/Dybala, renew the Morata loan, and fix our midfield and LB positions finally. And then don’t buy Morata next summer, buying our young, long term WC striker instead. If Atletico offers a steep discount perhaps he could be bought as rotation piece, but otherwise no.

 

[lgorTudor]

Never once regretted bringing him back this season

Thanks for bringing him back

 

[Alin]

I would certainly keep him around, his G + A ratio is nothing short of impressive given the rookie coaching and overall difficulties faced by the team this season.

I'd imagine he could do even better in a well functioning team, can still improve or perhaps work on staying stronger on his feet aswell, signs are positive regardless and he surely done enough to deserve another season here, not exactly as the main striker(he needs competition to keep him on his toes) but his versatility does us quite well in filling both as ST and SS whenever necessary.

 

[Suns]

Scored 1 goal less than Suarez did for Atletico this year by the way. His best scoring season.

Also 3rd highest scoring player in the Champions League this season after Haaland and Mbappe. We should definitely prolong the loan for another year. Financially makes sense as well. He loves the club. Not keeping him around would be dumb.

 

[Post Ironic]

Scored 1 goal less than Suarez did for Atletico this year by the way. His best scoring season.

Also 3rd highest scoring player in the Champions League this season after Haaland and Mbappe. We should definitely prolong the loan for another year. Financially makes sense as well. He loves the club. Not keeping him around would be dumb.

1 less goal, 9 more assists, in 100 less minutes played. And our team functioned far worse than Atletico this year thanks to Tootsie and Pirlo. By any measure he had a very good season overall.

 

[zizinho]

Stats are not everything, Suarez scored 21 and they won 86pts. With Morata last year they won 70pts, and he scored 12. Does that mean Suarez would do better here? Not necessary, not everyone does the same in every environment.

 

[Pegi]

Stats are not everything, Suarez scored 21 and they won 86pts. With Morata last year they won 70pts, and he scored 12. Does that mean Suarez would do better here? Not necessary, not everyone does the same in every environment.

Suarez wanted to prove Barca them making a bad decision. What a nice way to end the season by snagging the La liga title in front of those scumbags.

Morata been quite impressive for me. Might not be a main striker, but really good back up striker. He just ain't consistent enough to be starting every game, night in night out but he comes very crucial in long season and alot of the games in same week.

 

[zizinho]

Suarez wanted to prove Barca them making a bad decision. What a nice way to end the season by snagging the La liga title in front of those scumbags.

Morata been quite impressive for me. Might not be a main striker, but really good back up striker. He just ain't consistent enough to be starting every game, night in night out but he comes very crucial in long season and alot of the games in same week.

That's the impression I have too. He's been at his best for Real and Juve, where he was backup/rotation. Wherever he went to be the main man he didn't live up to the expectations.

I hope he stays, I hope we can re negotiate the loan fee, or as someone mentioned previously, that we can exchange Berna for him. But I'd like another striker if Dybala leaves, Kramaric would be perfect. Then we can rotate properly

 

[Post Ironic]

Stats are not everything, Suarez scored 21 and they won 86pts. With Morata last year they won 70pts, and he scored 12. Does that mean Suarez would do better here? Not necessary, not everyone does the same in every environment.

Thats kind of my point. Suarez would be a poor signing to play with Ronaldo imo.

He was also god-awful in CL. 0 goals - 0 assists in 6 matches.