Alvaro Morata (56 Viewers)

[DelpieroForLife]

they refused a higher bid from VW (30M+) and when you look at the details of the deal, they made sure its all in their hands about Moratas future.we have to pay them 80M if we sell him, so we cant do that, we have to pay 100M if we want to remove the buyback, so we cant do that either. Morata cant refuse to go back there as he likely has already signed a contract there that becomes active when the clause is triggered. its all in their hands so its not just an assumption, its the most likely scenario that happened

Don't you think a two years loan without an option would serve the same purpose without all the contractual complications?

 

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[Hydde]

I also had a meltdown but mano, please breathe. We all know that but you dont go to an ugly fat short lady and call her all that at loud, be nice. Serie A would be better, Berlusconi are gonna sell or die son. The asían guy is trying with Ínter. Let's give them sometime and they might be able to fight us the italian cup in a couple of years

 

[zizinho]

Don't you think a two years loan without an option would serve the same purpose without all the contractual complications?

1. we earn 10M this way
2. there was always a small chance they wouldnt activate the clause
3. there was always a small chance we could negotiate a permanent deal this way by paying extra money and keeping him her

 

[Kian]

Don't you think a two years loan without an option would serve the same purpose without all the contractual complications?

Definitely not, because in case Morata wouldn't develop the way they hoped they would be stuck with him without having earned the 20mio. This way they had full control of the situation. Plus they could have waited for the 3rd year and watch his development.

All that from Real's side of course.

 

[DelpieroForLife]

Real refused Wolfsburg's +30m offer.

That doesn't necessarily mean they won't accept 35M or a higher offer without a buyback clause though.

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

If he's going back to Real, then I understand

It's like if you were given the chance to play for Juventus, you would 10/10. We're tifosi.

If he goes to the EPL though I'll be mad; we need to ensure him that he will get ample playing time vs an English team

 

[Kian]

You can't be sure about that, to be honest you are just making an assumption here.

I am not saying they would have certainly accepted to forget about the buyback clause have we offered 30-35M two years ago, but it's quite possible they would have. You my friend on the other hand are sure they won't accept any deal without a buyback regardless of what we offer for no good reason.

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That's precisely were we disagree, have Madrid publicly excluded the possibility to accept any bid for Morata without a buyback clause regardless of the offered sum?

I might be wrong or missing something but I can't recall hearing such thing from Madrid side TBH.

I don't think Real has to state their intentions publicly in order for them to be true? The Wolfsburg offer is not prove, that's right, but a clear indication. Furthermore Marotta stated several times that a deal without the recompra was not possible, I think he should know. Plus.. are you sure you would've paid 35+ mio for him 2 years ago?

 

[ClaudiOHHH]

With that said, we need some big time Champion's League players to come in

Replacing Berardi with Cuadrado is fine for Serie A, but definitely not for CL

Same with Morata now

 

[DelpieroForLife]

1. we earn 10M this way
2. there was always a small chance they wouldnt activate the clause
3. there was always a small chance we could negotiate a permanent deal this way by paying extra money and keeping him her

1- if the purpose is for us to develop him for two years they might just loan him for free and offer to pay his salary. More or less a 10M.
2- which means we have just paid 20M for a player that didn't perform as expected from both parties, why else would they not activate the clause? We are the losers here and a two years loan would have eliminated such possibility.
3- they won't need such formula to do that, the two teams might discuss this once the two years loan is over.

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Definitely not, because in case Morata wouldn't develop the way they hoped they would be stuck with him without having earned the 20mio. This way they had full control of the situation. Plus they could have waited for the 3rd year and watch his development.

All that from Real's side of course.

You are right, which prove a two years free loan would have been a better deal from Juventus perspective.

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I don't think Real has to state their intentions publicly in order for them to be true? The Wolfsburg offer is not prove, that's right, but a clear indication. Furthermore Marotta stated several times that a deal without the recompra was not possible, I think he should know. Plus.. are you sure you would've paid 35+ mio for him 2 years ago?

I would personally ask for Marotta's head have he offered such sum two years ago

 

[he_is_legend]

I am already missing him.
Now who will replace him? It needs to be someone that have the same impact in the CL as him.

 

[zizinho]

1- if the purpose is for us to develop him for two years they might just loan him for free and offer to pay his salary. More or less a 10M.
2- which means we have just paid 20M for a player that didn't perform as expected from both parties, why else would they not activate the clause? We are the losers here and a two years loan would have eliminated such possibility.
3- they won't need such formula to do that, the two teams might discuss this once the two years loan is over.

I dont know what you're arguing? We paid 20M, we owned the player but Real didnt want to lose him so they made a buyback. He brought us a CL final and we make a profit on him if he leaves. If Real in the meantime bought a better player or didnt want him for other reasons we would have a chance to keep him permanently. How is a loan better? Also, with a loan and with clubs willing to pay 50M for him now, we would have been at a disadvantage, with paying 20M 2 years ago we can offer less to keep him. I dont see why a loan would be better

 

[IliveForJuve]

I have nothing but love for this man.

He's never disrespected Juve. Forza Alvarito

 

[baggio]

The only way he would stay is if Allegri told him he's going to be a starter with Dybala. And I don't think we can do that. However, that being said, I do think AAllegri could've treated his rotation a little better. Seems like they don't have the best relationship IMO.

 

[Salvatore]

The only way he would stay is if Allegri told him he's going to be a starter with Dybala. And I don't think we can do that. However, that being said, I do think AAllegri could've treated his rotation a little better. Seems like they don't have the best relationship IMO.

He was benched for not being as good as Mandzukic and Allegri still managed to give him significant minutes? Always the first attacking option off the bench. He can kiss this club bye bye if he needs guarantees.

 

[Klin]

I will always love you, Alvaro.

The guy is a Madridista at heart, sorta like our very own Marchisio. I hope he won't go to EPL though.

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The only way he would stay is if Allegri told him he's going to be a starter with Dybala. And I don't think we can do that. However, that being said, I do think AAllegri could've treated his rotation a little better. Seems like they don't have the best relationship IMO.

Mandzukic was better than Morata, hence why the Croat started over him. Let's not sugarcoat it. Having said this, he still managed to play a lot and as already mentioned, our first choice off the bench. We are not Arsenal or Liverpool, we can't guarantee a starting spot. You have to earn it, like Dybala did.

I'm not sure what he is expecting to get at Madrid.

 

[baggio]

I think Mandzu was returning good numbers but we didn't give Alvaro continuity to hit some form when he was out IMO. On form, he is a better player with more facets to his game, but it's done so no point crying over spilt milk. Next.

 

[zizinho]

Lets not forget his italian GF. This isn't over yet

 

[Klin]

I think Mandzu was returning good numbers but we didn't give Alvaro continuity to hit some form when he was out IMO. On form, he is a better player with more facets to his game, but it's done so no point crying over spilt milk. Next.

Morata had his fair share of bad games too, B, plus we spent half a season chasing the top spots, so we wanted more assurances.

 

[DAiDEViL]

Lets not forget his italian GF. This isn't over yet

look at her Instagram, she'll love Madrid or London.

 

[s4tch]

did anyone read the leaked contract between real and juventus? the 7th chapter is about the buyback conditions, but i don't understand spanish, so i can't tell if there's anything about the installments real should pay should they decide to buy back the player.

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look at her Instagram, she'll love Madrid or London.

or paris. not sure about manchester.