Alvaro Morata (79 Viewers)

[Xperd]

Atleast we know now that the final word is not down to him.Its pretty much confirmed from his own mouth today in his latest interview.
The assumption from most around here including me was that he had a say but its not to be so.Incredibly stupid deal imo after understanding more details of it now but we have to move on now.

And now i start to feel Berardi transfer was tied to Morata's future at the club.Thats how the board saw it probably when they made this transfer.
If someone 'replaces' Morata,its most likely going to be Berardi.

 

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[LiquidPLP]

Atleast we know now that the final word is not down to him.Its pretty much confirmed from his own mouth today in his latest interview.
The assumption from most around here including me was that he had a say but its not to be so.Incredibly stupid deal imo after understanding more details of it now but we have to move on now.

And now i start to feel Berardi transfer was tied to Morata's future at the club.Thats how the board saw it probably when they made this transfer.
If someone 'replaces' Morata,its most likely going to be Berardi.

it definitely should be Berardi. He's a much more natural Dybala's replacement/rival for the SS spot than Morata. The kid enables us to play 433 and also could be tried as Pereyra-like-AM. He's got better end product, so it could actually work.

Besides we really need to keep bringing in the best Italians that are out there, because for foreigners it doesn't matter whether they play in Italy or Spain and EPL is always tempting. They come and go while players like Chiellini, Bonucci, Barzagli and Marchisio are still here. Our Italian core is getting old too, it needs to be addressed.

 

[Xperd]

Basically ,Morata likes it here and would like to stay on for more yrs but he also wont disobey Madrid.He's kept his options open which obviously works in Madrid's favor when they are making this decision.

I would disagree with people that say Morata would want to stay here than get sold to Arsenal or Chelsea etc.Sure Juve is a better option now but it doesnt seem to me he's totally fixated towards remaining here.

 

[Hydde]

Atleast we know now that the final word is not down to him.Its pretty much confirmed from his own mouth today in his latest interview.
The assumption from most around here including me was that he had a say but its not to be so.Incredibly stupid deal imo after understanding more details of it now but we have to move on now.

And now i start to feel Berardi transfer was tied to Morata's future at the club.Thats how the board saw it probably when they made this transfer.
If someone 'replaces' Morata,its most likely going to be Berardi.

Well i have been saying since long time ago that it didnt make sense for madrid to leave loopholes in the contract, so i never bought this "if morata doesnt want to return, madrid cant do anything" fairytale. I mean...then for which purpouse they did contracts then? lol.

About Berardi/Morata comment... i think they have nothing to do one with the other. If we lose morata.. we will be one CF less....and with Berardi we dont know what he will do in this team, or what allegri has planned for him. The only thing they have in common, is that we can pay one with the money we get from the other.. but we will be one CF short still...unless uw anna go with mandzukic and Zaza for next season as main CFs.

 

[lgorTudor]

cucked

 

[LiquidPLP]

Well i have been saying since long time ago that it didnt make sense for madrid to leave loopholes in the contract, so i never bought this "if morata doesnt want to return, madrid cant do anything" fairytale. I mean...then for which purpouse they did contracts then? lol.

About Berardi/Morata comment... i think they have nothing to do one with the other. If we lose morata.. we will be one CF less....and with Berardi we dont know what he will do in this team, or what allegri has planned for him. The only thing they have in common, is that we can pay one with the money we get from the other.. but we will be one CF short still...unless uw anna go with mandzukic and Zaza for next season as main CFs.

We won't be one CF short. More like we are one SS short now, so yeah I'd go with that.

 

[Xperd]

Well i have been saying since long time ago that it didnt make sense for madrid to leave loopholes in the contract, so i never bought this "if morata doesnt want to return, madrid cant do anything" fairytale. I mean...then for which purpouse they did contracts then? lol.

About Berardi/Morata comment... i think they have nothing to do one with the other. If we lose morata.. we will be one CF less....and with Berardi we dont know what he will do in this team, or what allegri has planned for him. The only thing they have in common, is that we can pay one with the money we get from the other.. but we will be one CF short still...unless uw anna go with mandzukic and Zaza for next season as main CFs.

We've played Morata-Zaza often though with Morata playing SS.Allegri necessarily may not see him as a frontline CF even though he's better in that role.
So i was speaking along those lines.
Lets not forget Dybala and Mandzukic for large parts of this season were a settled frontline.Berardi-Zaza as the backup frontline doesnt look too bad.

 

[Hydde]

We won't be one CF short. More like we are one SS short now, so yeah I'd go with that.

Mmmm, it depends on what we do with our midfield and the creative problem we have. If we cant fix that, i would not liek to have those 2 as main CF. If we bring quality offensive players on mid...then i think we can work with those 2...but still i would prefer us to replace Morata with a prolific goalscorer.

We've played Morata-Zaza often though with Morata playing SS.Allegri necessarily may not see him as a frontline CF even though he's better in that role.
So i was speaking along those lines.
Lets not forget Dybala and Mandzukic for large parts of this season were a settled frontline.Berardi-Zaza as the backup frontline doesnt look too bad.

AT least Berardi and Zaza know each other very well...but not sure how good those 2 wold be in a 4312 or 352. What i would really like to see, is us using all our new players in a formation...not sacrificing one at the expense of the other. But we will see.

 

[NinjaPoggy]

N,,also Capello,Canavaro and Emerson.You remember that mercenaries?

damn i forgot that pillage, we got rammed in the butt yet again it seems

 

[Miki]

I think Morata's willingness to stay or go back stopped being relevant the moment he signed that other contract with Real.
So it was irrelevant all along. The ball is in Madrid's court.

Maybe he won't be glamorous enough for them.

 

[JuveID]

Mmmm, it depends on what we do with our midfield and the creative problem we have. If we cant fix that, i would not liek to have those 2 as main CF. If we bring quality offensive players on mid...then i think we can work with those 2...but still i would prefer us to replace Morata with a prolific goalscorer.



AT least Berardi and Zaza know each other very well...but not sure how good those 2 wold be in a 4312 or 352. What i would really like to see, is us using all our new players in a formation...not sacrificing one at the expense of the other. But we will see.

do not worry about berardi in 2 front line strikers. he is not pure winger at all.

 

[lgorTudor]

No way we lose him. We are in our 'transition period' after all, building upon and around our young players Morata, Pogba, Dybala :mut:

 

[PedroFlu]

To me this is all bullshit. How can the player have no say in it? Does he have a current contract abiding with Real Madrid? No, he hasn't.

Madrid's prerrogative is with Juventus. Juventus are obliged to say yes to the transfer, and let the player have contract talks with Madrid. If he doesn't agree the terms, he won't go there, it's as simple as that. A worker has freedom to decide wether to sign a contract with a company or not.

So, if he himself said he has no option, it's just a way to say that he will accept if Madrid buys him. He won't oppose to it (but he could be).

To me, Madrid buying him is a no brainer. It's really the most likely possibility. He stays only if we are prepared to pay an aditional value of 20M or something for him.

IMO, he's our best CF and should be kept. Even if we have to part ways with Zaza (for money issues) and or Mandzukic (to me it's clear that there's only place for one of them).

 

[duranfj]

As solemne said, it's a diplomatic statement from morata. What ever happen in the futuro he would be clean.

 

[icemaη]

To me this is all bullshit. How can the player have no say in it? Does he have a current contract abiding with Real Madrid? No, he hasn't.

Madrid's prerrogative is with Juventus. Juventus are obliged to say yes to the transfer, and let the player have contract talks with Madrid. If he doesn't agree the terms, he won't go there, it's as simple as that. A worker has freedom to decide wether to sign a contract with a company or not.

So, if he himself said he has no option, it's just a way to say that he will accept if Madrid buys him. He won't oppose to it (but he could be).

To me, Madrid buying him is a no brainer. It's really the most likely possibility. He stays only if we are prepared to pay an aditional value of 20M or something for him.

IMO, he's our best CF and should be kept. Even if we have to part ways with Zaza (for money issues) and or Mandzukic (to me it's clear that there's only place for one of them).

Morata had six months left on his contract when we first started negotiating. Before Real sold him to us, he signed a new one which would get activated if and when Real exercised the buyback option. So the news about Morata not having a say is not exaggerated. He did sign a contract.

For me, if Real wants to resell rather than keep, then we'll find a way to negotiate an extra payment with them. If they want to keep, then he's gone.

 

[K.O.]

Morata had six months left on his contract when we first started negotiating. Before Real sold him to us, he signed a new one which would get activated if and when Real exercised the buyback option. So the news about Morata not having a say is not exaggerated. He did sign a contract.

For me, if Real wants to resell rather than keep, then we'll find a way to negotiate an extra payment with them. If they want to keep, then he's gone.

Yes. If RM's intention is to sign him for 30m and resell for 50m, they'd get a 20m profit. We should pay them that 20m right now and get it over with.

If they want to actually use him, then I think we have absolutely ZERO chance because both Morata and Real Madrid will push for it.

 

[DUKAC]

Although I think that it's not up to Morata but to the buy back clause in the contract it's a pretty bad situation for Morata and us also ,where he/we doesn't know clearly what his future will be.So instead of thinking how to score he thinks where the next season he will be.Beppe must start the negotiations as soon as he could in order to resolve this issue.I really love the kid but that's it what it is.

 

[Xperd]

Marotta :

"It depends on Real Madrid, we need to reach an agreement with them on the buy-back clause. It was something we had to agree to at the time or we would have not got the player. We will start the negotiations but we hope to be able to keep him. Alvaro has been important to us since he arrived in Turin."

 

[Hydde]

lets be prepared for everything... and that includes losing him. To have time to find a sucessor... the negotiations of his clause shiuld be resolved before anything... that way we will know if we need another forward or not.

 

[baggio]

Mostly losing him. Don't think we can do much here. And I think even for Morata, if they're willing to keep him, he's happier going back being Spanish and that being his home.