Alexis Sánchez - Barcelona - ST (15 Viewers)

[Fake Melo]

How so? If you think Inter would throw Sneijder and Countinho to one side then wow.

United don't play a formation that suits Sanchez and have 400 Million wingers anyway.

Barca won't drop Messi, Pedro or Villa.

Chelsea won't drop Lampard to accommodate Sanchez either.

But.
Would Sanchez play in a mediocre team?
A team without CL?
A team who won't play in CL for next, lets say 2-3 years?

What do you know about him, you seem to be so sure that he prefers us rather than Barcelona and Chelsea. Its all guru BS.

 

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[Nicholas]

We're not a mediocre team. Udinese haven't play CL yet. Aslong as we get European football then Sanchez would join us.

 

[Fake Melo]

We're not a mediocre team. Udinese haven't play CL yet. Aslong as we get European football then Sanchez would join us.

Yeah, good luck to us when Udinese reachs CL and we are stuck in EL.

 

[Alen]

Sanchez will be perfect for Inter if they manage to convince Eto'o to play in 4-2-3-1 again. The CL winning formation with Sanchez instead of Pandev.

Actually, if they get two wing players, then they can play 4-2-3-1 without switching Eto'o to the wings. Eto'o can be the CF, Milito will be sold and if their interest in Bale is serious, then it can be terrifying...

Eto'o
Bale Sneijder Sanchez
Cambiasso Motta
defense defense defense defense​

 

[Nicholas]

Sanchez plays as a SS now does he not?

 

[Bjerknes]

Be real guys, we wont sign Sanchez or any other high profile player. We just recorded a huge loss and as far as I know we're spending on some of the players we got last summer. If we're being realistic we could maybe sign a cheaper player like Bastos and probably a new RB.

Screw that. Screw Bastos. For his transfer fee from the Hitlerian-like Aulas we could buy two decent young talents for the same price. It's time to do the right thing and start building a team from scratch, consisting of youth. No Champions League money, a club with recorded losses of 30M this past fiscal year, and an incredibly weak mentality all need to be addressed. We should look at a club like Borussia Dortmund and extract some ideas from them instead of trying to become Barcelona. There is no free lunch in economics or football, so we need to do things the hard way.

Ronaldo has no competition at any club and he'd walk into every single side in the World. Sanchez wouldn't . However Sanchez out of every club who wants him we'd be able to guarantee him a starting spot unlike the likes of Chelsea, Inter, Barca and United.

We can't offer him the pesos they can, nor the chance of trophies. Obviously.

 

[Nicholas]

Why did you quote me?

 

[JuveJay]

I think we could offer 20-25 plus a player or two. I think they would rather do business with us and get some players in return. 30m cash is nice but I think they would do business with us.

Most likely, and we are on good terms with Udinese, which suggests that any future business means and depends on us signing Pepe permanently. As for Motta, that looked like a throwaway move from Udinese anyway, they can't expect us to buy players who are awful.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Sanchez plays as a SS now does he not?

Behind a striker or SS. Anyway, he'd be great in that place where Alen placed him.

 

[JCK]

Then he's out of our price range.

I said that months ago, just after the summer transfer window it was reported that Inter are to pay a fat amount to get him. He is Inter bound and their jersey he will be wearing next season.

 

[Hust]

I agree with Andy (as I usually do). Instead of paying A LOT of money and using our EU spot on Bastos we should be pulling a Palermo out of a fucking hat. Find young players with low value and mass potential. It's like flipping homes...buy em cheap, put a little work in them and sell them for a fat profit if you decide to do so.

The only players we should be spending more than 20m on should be 25 years old or younger. Spending heavily for us should mean spending heavily for a long term future not some quick band-aid fix. In 2006 we should have been doing what Palermo are doing now. As much as I hate them I envy their business model, man if you think of the talent they have and the smartness they have displayed its frustrating. We gave mid-table clubs our better youth players and thought that spending was the way out. Figures why countries like Greece snoop and the US are fucked right now.

The right players weren't invested in and the ones we should have kept weren't. It has been a domino effect of bad choices and the sooner we learn from these mistakes the better. As Andy said, it's time to hit the drawing board (again) and start from scratch.

 

[JuveJay]

Why not keep the players? You want us to be like Palermo, 5th-8th every season? :S

 

[Hust]

Why not keep the players? You want us to be like Palermo, 5th-8th every season? :S

I think you know what I mean, JJ. You as well as anyone here would kill to have Pastore, Illicic, Sanchez, etc on our team and have bought them for peanuts.

I'm more or less talking about their scouting and finding potential. Maybe I should have spelled it out

 

[JuveJay]

I think you know what I mean, JJ. You as well as anyone here would kill to have Pastore, Illicic, Sanchez, etc on our team and have bought them for peanuts.

I'm more or less talking about their scouting and finding potential. Maybe I should have spelled it out

I was just testing you, but of course we should try some of that. I think we've spoken about this a lot, the only problem I have with it is that you can't do it en masse and expect results, it could take several seasons (look at the league progression of Palermo, Napoli, Udinese), I don't know how many people would really be that patient.

It seems at the moment there is no tolerance, no patience to try to get something to work, so why go for another project? If the team is full of young players with potential and we are still 6th-8th then will people accept it because we might end up a 3rd-4th placed team in 2-4 years?

My conclusion then and now is potential plus 'champions' or at least a couple of established players, Krasic-quality minimum. Financially we'd have to rip up several deals and have help, and get a coach in and stick with him without the bs when we slip up. It's getting to a desperate stage, the longer we suffer in the classifica.

 

[Hust]

Agreed. Can't do it in masse and expect results but what I have said on numerous occasions is that had we have bought 1-2 youth players since 2006 promotion from B, then we wouldn't have been in this position...but we didn't. Imagine in 2006 we bought Dzeko, then in 2007 Pastore, 2008 Sanchez, 2009 Beck, last summer Poli all the while using our regular budget on players like Melo, Bonucci, etc...we would be singing a different tune today, that's for sure.

Instead, we opted for quick fix band-aids like Grosso, Motta, Grygera...we never learned and we ended up with a 22m late bloomer in Amauri, a Luca toni, slightly above average Matri and a long list of loan with an option to buys.

 

[Suns]

Thing is, Pastore and Sanchez wouldn't have been the same players if they were with us. Its a different situation in smaller club like Udinese and Palermo where they get the chance to mature and learn from their mistakes. If they were with us and had a bad period they would have been killed by the press and the fans. Its easier to find(and shape) superstars in smaller teams. Also, lets not forget the fact that with every Sanchez or Pastore there is always plenty of young talents that go into oblivion.

 

[JuveJay]

Yes, that's right.

 

[Boksic]

Thing is, Pastore and Sanchez wouldn't have been the same players if they were with us. Its a different situation in smaller club like Udinese and Palermo where they get the chance to mature and learn from their mistakes. If they were with us and had a bad period they would have been killed by the press and the fans. Its easier to find(and shape) superstars in smaller teams. Also, lets not forget the fact that with every Sanchez or Pastore there is always plenty of young talents that go into oblivion.

Probably the best post I have read on here in a long long time.

 

[Bjerknes]

Thing is, Pastore and Sanchez wouldn't have been the same players if they were with us. Its a different situation in smaller club like Udinese and Palermo where they get the chance to mature and learn from their mistakes. If they were with us and had a bad period they would have been killed by the press and the fans. Its easier to find(and shape) superstars in smaller teams. Also, lets not forget the fact that with every Sanchez or Pastore there is always plenty of young talents that go into oblivion.

That's not because of the press, that's because they would have been loaned into oblivion.

So what's the alternative here? Continue on the same path overpaying for mediocre Italians, or overpaying for youngsters that we can groom ourselves? I know what most here would choose.

There's lot of pressure on the Arsenal youngsters, Barca youngsters, et cetera, yet they turn out alright. Of course, everyone will scapegoat the fans or what have you, when it's our own shit system being the biggest detriment of all.

 

[JCK]

Thing is, Pastore and Sanchez wouldn't have been the same players if they were with us. Its a different situation in smaller club like Udinese and Palermo where they get the chance to mature and learn from their mistakes. If they were with us and had a bad period they would have been killed by the press and the fans. Its easier to find(and shape) superstars in smaller teams. Also, lets not forget the fact that with every Sanchez or Pastore there is always plenty of young talents that go into oblivion.

Yet you wanted Giovinco to stay give a chance to mature with us and learn from his mistakes.