Alexis Sánchez - Barcelona - ST (41 Viewers)
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I'm all for discussion.
I think, in theory, this move would be good but it would depend on a number of circumstances, namely, can he fit in a 3-5-2? Or, will Conte return to the 4-3-3 ever again?
I think Sanchez's experience in the 4-3-3 at Barca would not only benefit us but give us a clear reason to return to that formation. This would then benefit Giovinco and Vuc (who I've always felt would really do well back in the 4-3-3). But in a 3-5-2, I fear Sanchez might fall victim to similar issues that Giovinco has faced though perhaps not to such a degree because he's bigger.
Sanchez's pace would definitely be a welcomed attribute to the Juve attack.
I think, in theory, this move would be good but it would depend on a number of circumstances, namely, can he fit in a 3-5-2? Or, will Conte return to the 4-3-3 ever again?
I think Sanchez's experience in the 4-3-3 at Barca would not only benefit us but give us a clear reason to return to that formation. This would then benefit Giovinco and Vuc (who I've always felt would really do well back in the 4-3-3). But in a 3-5-2, I fear Sanchez might fall victim to similar issues that Giovinco has faced though perhaps not to such a degree because he's bigger.
Sanchez's pace would definitely be a welcomed attribute to the Juve attack.
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I think Pepe is the kind of player who Juventus needed for the last three to four years, an above average player with great heart and decent skills who's will gets you some close victories. But as we return to the pinnacle of European football, I think he'll find playing time very hard to come by and his average quality returns him to the bench. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pepe would be very useful in a 4-3-3. Three midfielders would be MVP, Asamoah being the obvious backup there. Three forwards would be Giovinco-Llorente-Vucinic. Doesn't Sanchez play the LW/RW position at Barca? If we go for Sanchez then my preferred three forwards in the 4-3-3 to be Sanchez-Llorente-Vucinic.
I don't see a spot for Pepe in the 4-3-3. That's just me.
Put the Sanchez/Giovinco combination on either side of Llorente at times and you've got some great pace up front for a 4-3-3.
I think Pepe is the kind of player who Juventus needed for the last three to four years, an above average player with great heart and decent skills who's will gets you some close victories. But as we return to the pinnacle of European football, I think he'll find playing time very hard to come by and his average quality returns him to the bench. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Pepe would be very useful in a 4-3-3. Three midfielders would be MVP, Asamoah being the obvious backup there. Three forwards would be Giovinco-Llorente-Vucinic. Doesn't Sanchez play the LW/RW position at Barca? If we go for Sanchez then my preferred three forwards in the 4-3-3 to be Sanchez-Llorente-Vucinic.
I don't see a spot for Pepe in the 4-3-3. That's just me.
Put the Sanchez/Giovinco combination on either side of Llorente at times and you've got some great pace up front for a 4-3-3.
Defence-splitting passing are my main recollection of him at Udinese.
Played so many great balls for Di Natale and midfield runners.
The only legitimate reason someone could give for not going for him would be if they wanted more of a goal-scoring SS (and Juve actually being able to sign that goal-scoring SS).
Played so many great balls for Di Natale and midfield runners.
The only legitimate reason someone could give for not going for him would be if they wanted more of a goal-scoring SS (and Juve actually being able to sign that goal-scoring SS).
That's great tactics, kill two birds with one stone. Lose both defense and offense.
There's a reason Conte doesn't play Gio in that position, not that Pepe is WC but he did pretty good for what he was asked to do, and that was pressing and helping the midfield trio. Playing Gio in there would totally ruin the balance of the team and leave all the burden to MPV, they would have to run twice as much.
I am all in for a player that doesn't contribute in defense as long as he makes it up by being VERY GOOD on offense, and I don't think Gio is worth it, especially in a role he never played.
BTW Sanchez recently complained about playing in the wing, he wants to play more centrally.
There's a reason Conte doesn't play Gio in that position, not that Pepe is WC but he did pretty good for what he was asked to do, and that was pressing and helping the midfield trio. Playing Gio in there would totally ruin the balance of the team and leave all the burden to MPV, they would have to run twice as much.
I am all in for a player that doesn't contribute in defense as long as he makes it up by being VERY GOOD on offense, and I don't think Gio is worth it, especially in a role he never played.
BTW Sanchez recently complained about playing in the wing, he wants to play more centrally.
Why go back to 4-3-3 when we have an overabundance of good midfielders? It would mean benching Asamoah, for example, who has been terrific. I'd rather we play 4-4-2, but over them both, 3-5-2 has more or less been getting us the results we want even when half our squad is out of form or injured. Imagine when we are full strength and with a capable poacher up front. We'd be unstoppable.
I am not sure about sanchez doing any better than Vucinic or Giovinco are. I wouldnt cross a 15 mill limit for him. He's been really horrible for Barca in a torres like manner of wastefulness and choking. I feel more secure with an 8 mill bid for lisandro lopez/ Villa or a 20 mill bid for jojo or a 35 mill bid for suarez. I wouldnt be against the move if its that cheap though.
We have a more creative/teamsynergy SS with vucinic, he would work well with Llorente.
Llorente's sub should be matri, who also is very good at weighing down on a defence, but lacks the consistency in beeing clinical. some periods he is, some he isnt, but works hard as a striker regardless.
For this reason, i think that if we were to buy a new forward, it should be a scoring SS. This guy isnt required to be as good for the team as vucinic, but he should be scoring easely, and making use of the space created by matri.
In easyer games we could field the scoring SS with Llorente, in harder ones vucinic and LLorente to get an upper hand in controlling the game.
I dont consider Sanchez to be a "scoring ss" and to be more like vucinic, as in teamvalue, and creating.
Why would you pick sanchez over a scoring SS @Red
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If you dont want to be dissapointed, dont do this.
We will not go for a player "because we need him". As Agnelli said, we need a turnover of 320-350mil, and we'd be lucky if we hit over 230 this year.
However, we will see if there are interesting opportunities on the market, that would benefit our team roster in comparison to their added value.
If Jovetic is suddenly for sale, for a low price cause can be swapped with quag, we will do it. if we can find a p/ex + cash of ogbonna, we could buy no forward at all, and go for ogbonna
perhaps Ancelotti leaves and Verratti likes to come here, and we can get a reasonable price for him, might do that.
Nothing is certain right now, apart from that we will sign the economical opportunity, not the name or position.
Llorente's sub should be matri, who also is very good at weighing down on a defence, but lacks the consistency in beeing clinical. some periods he is, some he isnt, but works hard as a striker regardless.
For this reason, i think that if we were to buy a new forward, it should be a scoring SS. This guy isnt required to be as good for the team as vucinic, but he should be scoring easely, and making use of the space created by matri.
In easyer games we could field the scoring SS with Llorente, in harder ones vucinic and LLorente to get an upper hand in controlling the game.
I dont consider Sanchez to be a "scoring ss" and to be more like vucinic, as in teamvalue, and creating.
Why would you pick sanchez over a scoring SS @Red
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If you dont want to be dissapointed, dont do this.
We will not go for a player "because we need him". As Agnelli said, we need a turnover of 320-350mil, and we'd be lucky if we hit over 230 this year.
However, we will see if there are interesting opportunities on the market, that would benefit our team roster in comparison to their added value.
If Jovetic is suddenly for sale, for a low price cause can be swapped with quag, we will do it. if we can find a p/ex + cash of ogbonna, we could buy no forward at all, and go for ogbonna
perhaps Ancelotti leaves and Verratti likes to come here, and we can get a reasonable price for him, might do that.
Nothing is certain right now, apart from that we will sign the economical opportunity, not the name or position.
Lissandro will not nearly be sold for that price.
Villa will definatly not be going for at least double
20mil for jojo will only go forth with a p/ex
We cannot afford 35 mil+wages on suarez, even if we make semi's and break even a year ahead of time as a result. And thats probably a very good decision by the board. Board, not marotta.
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Vucinic is ALOT more consistent then he was in the past, more then 3/4th of his games he plays actually well, wich a chance of a "critical" game where he suddenly is worldclass.
Look at the amount of goals we score. in those +3/4th, he eighter played a role in making the goal by keypass or creating space, or he scores it himself.
The only thing you can say is that him scoring it himself, is not very consistent. considering the scoring potential of our midfield, its not that big a deal if we'd get a scoring striker like Llorente to accompany him
Villa will definatly not be going for at least double
20mil for jojo will only go forth with a p/ex
We cannot afford 35 mil+wages on suarez, even if we make semi's and break even a year ahead of time as a result. And thats probably a very good decision by the board. Board, not marotta.
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SS need to be consistent. Vuci isn't or hasn't given us that. Maybe some healthy competition may sort that out 
Look at the amount of goals we score. in those +3/4th, he eighter played a role in making the goal by keypass or creating space, or he scores it himself.
The only thing you can say is that him scoring it himself, is not very consistent. considering the scoring potential of our midfield, its not that big a deal if we'd get a scoring striker like Llorente to accompany him
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