ah, the beautiful 4-3-3 (2 Viewers)
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Appiah cannot win any balls, which is unacceptable if u r a midfielder, he won 1 ball during the first half against Inter...
Tacch can only destroy, but we knew that
We were watching different matches, when our line stepped out there was always a player, who left behind by 5 meters, and he was turning like a tanker-ship, even the hungarian co-commentator noticed that.Sad, but Leg isnt juve material.
Tacch can only destroy, but we knew that
We were watching different matches, when our line stepped out there was always a player, who left behind by 5 meters, and he was turning like a tanker-ship, even the hungarian co-commentator noticed that.Sad, but Leg isnt juve material.
Wow, I don't think I've ever seen a formation that would work worse than that....Seriously mate, that's just out of control.
First of all, if you're gonna play Mexes and Legro in central defense together, then put Mexes on the right and Legro on the left, where they belong. Next, why the hell is Legro there? Has he not given enough terrible performances this season to warrant him being dropped? He was a one-season wonder and we were one season too late in buying him.
Zambrotta is perfect for this formation, because the midfield lacks width, but he can make up for that. Thuram, however is not good for that formation because he's getting slower and his decision making ability is becoming very poor, so I'd rather not have him going up to attack, as I doubt that he would recover well.
The midfield is probably the worst part...You've got two players who have absolutely sucked this season, and one who is inexperienced and playing out of position. Maresca is a central midfielder, that means he plays int he middle and that's where he is best. Appiah is not a left-sided midfielder, and honestly, I don't know why you'd put him on the pitch, he plays like shit. The same goes for Tacchinardi. The midfield in this scheme is the most important part, and yet you've managed to put together a thoroughly uncreative midfield with no passing talent, except on the right side, and you've even managed to put only one ball-winning player in there too. So you've got a midfield that is not good in offense or defense...
First of all, if you're gonna play Mexes and Legro in central defense together, then put Mexes on the right and Legro on the left, where they belong. Next, why the hell is Legro there? Has he not given enough terrible performances this season to warrant him being dropped? He was a one-season wonder and we were one season too late in buying him.
Zambrotta is perfect for this formation, because the midfield lacks width, but he can make up for that. Thuram, however is not good for that formation because he's getting slower and his decision making ability is becoming very poor, so I'd rather not have him going up to attack, as I doubt that he would recover well.
The midfield is probably the worst part...You've got two players who have absolutely sucked this season, and one who is inexperienced and playing out of position. Maresca is a central midfielder, that means he plays int he middle and that's where he is best. Appiah is not a left-sided midfielder, and honestly, I don't know why you'd put him on the pitch, he plays like shit. The same goes for Tacchinardi. The midfield in this scheme is the most important part, and yet you've managed to put together a thoroughly uncreative midfield with no passing talent, except on the right side, and you've even managed to put only one ball-winning player in there too. So you've got a midfield that is not good in offense or defense...
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1.leggo's had some horrible games and made huge mistakes,while zamby,even struggling with injury,has hardly needed any time to get his form back.offensively he's done well while remaining relatively reliable at the back.
2.of course nedved's a huge disappointment.i just didn't mention it.i thought we were talking about thuram here
what about montero then??i don't see you complaining about him either.in any case,you've failed to refute my argument that thuram has had a bad season.case closed.
3.we all know about his exploits on the left wing.but the fact remains that we do play in a 4-4-2 most of the time and that he is not alone on the wing.dp roams on the left alot,and neddy,when not in the centre,moves out left too.
1.leggo's had some horrible games and made huge mistakes,while zamby,even struggling with injury,has hardly needed any time to get his form back.offensively he's done well while remaining relatively reliable at the back.
2.of course nedved's a huge disappointment.i just didn't mention it.i thought we were talking about thuram here
what about montero then??i don't see you complaining about him either.in any case,you've failed to refute my argument that thuram has had a bad season.case closed.3.we all know about his exploits on the left wing.but the fact remains that we do play in a 4-4-2 most of the time and that he is not alone on the wing.dp roams on the left alot,and neddy,when not in the centre,moves out left too.
didnt see me complaining about montero?! you didnt see him in my team, what does that say? thuram has not been our worst defender by any means, but one of our best. definitely can perform again next season!
WE DO NOT NORMALLY PLAY A 442
usually we play with a 4312 or a 4231. just because we used a 442 sometime last night doesnt mean we always use it
ZAMBROTTA WOULD NOT BE ISOLATED IN A 433. you didnt answer the question: was pessoto isolated in a 433? of course you didnt because the answer is NO.
the thing that concerns me most is that only maresca, del piero and miccoli are creative players. you'll have zambrotta on the left which is good as he can create from there, but thuram on the right will not.
tacchinardi and appiah offer nothing but defensiveness.
this formation would be better if the following was done.
1. replace thuram with trabelsi and put thuram in the centre with mexes. (i persoanlly would sell thuram now)
2. appiah cant play along with maresca and tacchinardi, its just to defensive. Kapo in appiah position would be better as i believe he will join us. And the other option is of course keeping nedved and playing him in appiahs position.
3. i think Zlatan would better suit this formation as he can create and bring del piero and miccoli into the game a lot more than gilardino can. i think with del piero and miccoli working it on the forward wings, you really do need a player who can hold the ball up, dribble while being tall and a target man.
4-3-3:
trabelsi--mexes----ferrari---zambro
----maresca--tacchinardi---kapo/nedved
----miccoli-----zlatan---del piero
i think that would work better.
tacchinardi and appiah offer nothing but defensiveness.
this formation would be better if the following was done.
1. replace thuram with trabelsi and put thuram in the centre with mexes. (i persoanlly would sell thuram now)
2. appiah cant play along with maresca and tacchinardi, its just to defensive. Kapo in appiah position would be better as i believe he will join us. And the other option is of course keeping nedved and playing him in appiahs position.
3. i think Zlatan would better suit this formation as he can create and bring del piero and miccoli into the game a lot more than gilardino can. i think with del piero and miccoli working it on the forward wings, you really do need a player who can hold the ball up, dribble while being tall and a target man.
4-3-3:
trabelsi--mexes----ferrari---zambro
----maresca--tacchinardi---kapo/nedved
----miccoli-----zlatan---del piero
i think that would work better.
tachinardi has given many assists. we know how juve players improve after the first year. appiah certainly can tackle hard at brescia, no reason why he cant at juve. he can be attacking also, take players on and give assists; for del piero in the supercoppa in what must be one of the best passes all season from anyone.
i agree about thuram in the centre, ive always wanted him there, but its trivial as the formation sorts itself out. gilardino seems more probable, 15 goals already for parma!!
i agree about thuram in the centre, ive always wanted him there, but its trivial as the formation sorts itself out. gilardino seems more probable, 15 goals already for parma!!
No, I mean wingers and there's no need to laugh at me if your own intelligence is failing to keep up.
Zambrotta could, theoretically at least, be seen as a winger, I think he lacks what it takes but that's debatable. Either way, you put him in defence.
Thuram is a defender, who comes forward when the opportunity is there. His primary task on the pitch is to defend and it should stay that way.
Zambrotta could, theoretically at least, be seen as a winger, I think he lacks what it takes but that's debatable. Either way, you put him in defence.
Thuram is a defender, who comes forward when the opportunity is there. His primary task on the pitch is to defend and it should stay that way.
I'm a very big proponent of empiricle evidence. He has played with Juve for almost an entire season and there is little to no evidence of him being a hard tackler, or even being able to win the ball. Legro was pretty good with Chievo, and he sucks here. Mendieta was the best in the world with Valencia, but he sucked for Lazio. The point is that players sometimes decrease in ability for one reason or another. Therefore, you can not say that because Appiah was good last season, he will be good again, there is not enough evidence to make that assumption.
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we can apply that to vds in a way...
..dont start ian.
we can apply that to vds in a way...
..dont start ian.