Abortion, good or bad? (2 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Okay I can't say I support abortion or even like it. I'm against it personally, wouldn't want to be put in the situation to have to make that choice. But then how can you justify enforcing that on other people?

 

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[The Curr]

Same. Life is though sometimes but it isn't the child's fault she was raped. It does not justify taking a life.

What if the mother's life was endangered by being pregnant?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Good.


But abortion is not societies problem, but who cares to address the real problems? We're free!

 

[Klin]

Welcome to 'gender equality' Klin

I never thought about such issues hard enough, I gotta admit, but this is stupid.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yeah, but it's still his child she's carrying.

Yeah, I think it's a decision taken by both. They both have to agree.

 

[The Curr]

Yeah, I think it's a decision taken by both. They both have to agree.

That's an argument the man is never going to win.

 

[Klin]

Yeah, I think it's a decision taken by both. They both have to agree.

What if they don't? Is the final say of the mother's?

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Okay I can't say I support abortion or even like it. I'm against it personally, wouldn't want to be put in the situation to have to make that choice. But then how can you justify enforcing that on other people?

Was that directed towards me?

and what do u mean by the bold part? enforcing them to abort or to not abort?

Like i said in the previous post i am against it but does not mean i would rally against it.

What if the mother's life was endangered by being pregnant?

Well then it has to be looked in a completely different way. I would help abort because it means saving one life.

Any other reason and the mother can go fuck herself.

 

[Fred]

What if the mother's life was endangered by being pregnant?

She definitely has a right to abort then imo.


For me its not a black and white issue, i can't say i am against abortion, i definitely can't say i'm with it either. Depends on the situation and reasons for abortion really. Of course if doctors deem that a woman's life could be endangered by her pregnancy, she definitely has the right to abort.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Was that directed towards me?

and what do u mean by the bold part? enforcing them to abort or to not abort?

Like i said in the previous post i am against it but does not mean i would rally against it.

Not directed at you. But I mean, how can you tell someone they can't have an abortion? When does the fetus become "a life"?

 

[ALC]

@ Klin : Probably.

 

[IrishZebra]

I never thought about such issues hard enough, I gotta admit, but this is stupid.

Try paying 80% more for car insurance than a woman


Whether or not it is murder is a matter of personal belief btw.

 

[Fred]

Not directed at you. But I mean, how can you tell someone they can't have an abortion? When does the fetus become "a life"?

I think that question is key. In the first few days/months when it is certain that the fetus hasn't gained life, i can't see a problem with abortion. As it doesn't qualify as killing a soul, so no rationale against abortion in that case. After the fetus gains life, i think abortion should be allowed under special circumstances only.

 

[Klin]

@ Klin : Probably.

That is stupid.

Try paying 80% more for car insurance than a woman


Whether or not it is murder is a matter of personal belief btw.

You pay 80% more for car insurance than a woman there?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I think that question is key. In the first few days/months when it is certain that the fetus hasn't gained life, i can't see a problem with abortion. As it doesn't qualify as killing a soul, so no rationale against abortion in that case. After the fetus gains life, i think abortion should be allowed under special circumstances only.

Is there a specific point when a fetus becomes alive?

 

[Klin]

I think that question is key. In the first few days/months when it is certain that the fetus hasn't gained life, i can't see a problem with abortion. As it doesn't qualify as killing a soul, so no rationale against abortion in that case. After the fetus gains life, i think abortion should be allowed under special circumstances only.

So in 2 months the fetus would have not gained life yet? Sorry but I'm not really an expert on the subject.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

What if they don't? Is the final say of the mother's?

Well if you put it that way... it's her say.

 

[The Curr]

I think that question is key. In the first few days/months when it is certain that the fetus hasn't gained life, i can't see a problem with abortion. As it doesn't qualify as killing a soul, so no rationale against abortion in that case. After the fetus gains life, i think abortion should be allowed under special circumstances only.

What's your definition of "gained life"? Some would say that it's as soon as the egg is fertilised.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Not directed at you. But I mean, how can you tell someone they can't have an abortion? When does the fetus become "a life"?

Its a complicated thing you see. A sperm is "alive" and has "a life",the fertilised egg is life itself and all the following changes that happen to that egg right till birth. The baby is truly conscious only when he is born when he is exposed to another environment. But you cannot say life was created when the baby was born. Take for example a per term (immature) Caesarean Section delivery where the doc basically cuts you open and takes a baby out,would you say he created life wher there wasn't any just seconds before?

So abortion for some people might be as simple as taking a life of a cabbage plant of the chicken they had for dinner. For me its a human life right from the second it is implanted into the mother's woob and that is a fact.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

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