Abortion, good or bad? (9 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

Anyway, if there was an exact definition of when the fetus becomes a living being, then I'm against abortion from that point on.

 

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[Klin]

Well if you put it that way... it's her say.

I would only be willing to accept that if it was a case of rape or if having the baby would endanger the mother's life. If not, both the father and the mother have equal say in it.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Its a complicated thing you see. A sperm is "alive" and has "a life",the fertilised egg is life itself and all the following changes that happen to that egg right till birth. The baby is truly conscious only when he is born when he is exposed to another environment. But you cannot say life was created when the baby was born. Take for example a per term (immature) Caesarean Section delivery where the doc basically cuts you open and takes a baby out,would you say he created life wher there wasn't any just seconds before?

So abortion for some people might be as simple as taking a life of a cabbage plant of the chicken they had for dinner. For me its a human life right from the second it is implanted into the mother's woob and that is a fact.

Yeah, that's where it gets difficult. So things like the morning after pill could be considered abortion.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

stars in the sky, good or bad?

Good.

 

[Fred]

Is there a specific point when a fetus becomes alive?

There must be, no?

So in 2 months the fetus would have not gained life yet? Sorry but I'm not really an expert on the subject.

Join the club, neither am I.

What's your definition of "gained life"? Some would say that it's as soon as the egg is fertilised.

I don't have a definition. I definitely need to read up more on the subject.

Anyway, if there was an exact definition of when the fetus becomes a living being, then I'm against abortion from that point on.

My stance exactly.

 

[IrishZebra]

Doesn't the umbilical cord fulfil functions that are necessary for something to be considered alive?

I think up to three months is like a guideline, I'd stand by that.

 

[ALC]

Its a complicated thing you see. A sperm is "alive" and has "a life",the fertilised egg is life itself and all the following changes that happen to that egg right till birth. The baby is truly conscious only when he is born when he is exposed to another environment. But you cannot say life was created when the baby was born. Take for example a per term (immature) Caesarean Section delivery where the doc basically cuts you open and takes a baby out,would you say he created life wher there wasn't any just seconds before?

So abortion for some people might be as simple as taking a life of a cabbage plant of the chicken they had for dinner. For me its a human life right from the second it is implanted into the mother's woob and that is a fact.

Sperm doesn't have "a life". It's like saying blood has life.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Yeah, that's where it gets difficult. So things like the morning after pill could be considered abortion.

No. By your logic wanking off is a abortion genocide

Are you trolling matt?

 

[ALC]

Anyway, if there was an exact definition of when the fetus becomes a living being, then I'm against abortion from that point on.

I did stem cell research for my high school project, and there's no specific point. Different people/religions/communities have different ideas.

 

[IrishZebra]

I commit genocide daily.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I did stem cell research for my high school project, and there's no specific point. Different people/religions/communities have different ideas.

BLOOM!

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

No. By your logic wanking off is a abortion genocide

Are you trolling matt?

No, I mean if the point where the sperm meets the egg defines it as alive, then won't the morning after pill be abortion. Or am I pulling a biology failure here? How long does it take for the little tadpole to meet the egg?

 

[WΏΏdy?]

Sperm doesn't have "a life". It's like saying blood has life.

It is functionally alive. Also depends on what your definition of "life" is.

Some consider a virus as a life form.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I did stem cell research for my high school project, and there's no specific point. Different people/religions/communities have different ideas.

There needs to be a god-damned defining moment!

 

[Klin]

I did stem cell research for my high school project, and there's no specific point. Different people/religions/communities have different ideas.

Elaborate please.

 

[ALC]

It is functionally alive. Also depends on what your definition of "life" is.

Some consider a virus as a life form.

A sperm is a cell, dude. A virus is a germ. Totally different things.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

No, I mean if the point where the sperm meets the egg defines it as alive, then won't the morning after pill be abortion. Or am I pulling a biology failure here? How long does it take for the little tadpole to meet the egg?

Oh you mean the "morning after pill" i though u mean the birth control pills you take every day
It takes the sperm anywhere from 3 hours to 72 hours to reach and fertilize the egg.

 

[ALC]

Elaborate please.

True.

There needs to be a god-damned defining moment!

The Catholic religion is the most outspoken one and to them, life occurs when the sperm enters the egg. They're hardcore anti-abortion.

 

[IrishZebra]

Elaborate please.

Many Conservative Christians believe life begins the second the sperm fertilizes the egg.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

There needs to be a god-damned defining moment!

There isn't.