A present day Moses (9 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

No religion has such rules.What you're talking about is people using religion the wrong way.How many times do you need to hear this?

If somebody shows up to your house, murders you with a pistol, is it the person using the pistol the wrong way?

 

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[Martin]

No religion has such rules.What you're talking about is people using religion the wrong way.How many times do you need to hear this?

Bullshit of the highest order. The whole modus operandi of religion is to make people surrender their faculties of reason. Here's a choice quote from the good book:

Before Thomas saw the risen Christ, he would not believe the report of the other disciples who said they saw Him alive. But then Jesus appeared to Thomas as well, and he believed. Jesus told Thomas, "Because you have seen me, you have believed: blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed." (John 20:29)

This is the big message of Christian doctrine. Believe without seeing. And the more you start doubting, and still stubbornly believe, the better person you are for it.

 

[HelterSkelter]

And the link between religion and a pistol is...?

 

[Nenz]

For the millionth time, yes it does. It is religion's rules that people not think for themselves that is the harmful part. How many times do you need to hear this?


As for anth_nenna, he can figure out what he wants to say and then open a thread with his message. Rather than do 10 minutes of ranting off topic.

you already were in the same topic when you decided to go on one of your repetitive anti-religious rant. If you wanted to be on topic you'd talk about the actual incident.
I was replying to you, really.

 

[Nenz]

If somebody shows up to your house, murders you with a pistol, is it the person using the pistol the wrong way?

there is something so so wrong with that post.

There is absolutely no link. A handgun is a killing machine and religion is (at its very base) is the teachings of socialistic ideals.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

teachings of fairy tales you mean?

 

[Bjerknes]

Both French and Russian revolutions were driven by ideals, more social than economic or religious.
The Cold War was a power struggle, and a clash of socialistic ideals.
The War on Terror stems from the Cold War, but is really purely political (refer to my post if you'd bother reading).

WWI and WWII were fought over economical issues.

The Iraq war was all about oil.

Most of the wars in Africa are due to land acquisition, which is part of economics.

WWIII will be about what is left of our natural resources.

The "war on terror" is a faux war used for acquiring natural resources in the middle east and southern asia.

 

[Nenz]

Bullshit of the highest order. The whole modus operandi of religion is to make people surrender their faculties of reason. Here's a choice quote from the good book:



This is the big message of Christian doctrine. Believe without seeing. And the more you start doubting, and still stubbornly believe, the better person you are for it.

Another one of the casualties deciding to pick and choose from the bible. Just like the people you constantly condemn.

 

[Martin]

you already were in the same topic when you decided to go on one of your repetitive anti-religious rant. If you wanted to be on topic you'd talk about the actual incident.
I was replying to you, really.

Last I recall I was debating Juve Rev on whether religion is harmful. Then you come in, seemingly not having actually read it (since you say you were replying to me) and go on a long diatribe about wars and the salvation army and lord knows what else. Since the post was directed at me supposedly, I can say I consider it quite off topic.

 

[Bjerknes]

And the link between religion and a pistol is...?

It's really the same thing, actually. One can easily say the perpetrators are using whatever they go upon in the wrong way, but if that something did not exist, there would not be a problem.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Bullshit of the highest order. The whole modus operandi of religion is to make people surrender their faculties of reason. Here's a choice quote from the good book:



This is the big message of Christian doctrine. Believe without seeing. And the more you start doubting, and still stubbornly believe, the better person you are for it.

I was talking about your point about religion being harmful for people.If believing in what you dont see makes a person feel good,what's wrong with it?If he's not forcing his belief system upon you,what's the bad part about it all?The fact that he doesnt have supposedly cold logic on his side?

 

[Bjerknes]

People of religion seem to be some of the biggest hypocrites on Earth.

They believe in their books, but then they break the rules therein.

 

[Nenz]

WWI and WWII were fought over economical issues.

The Iraq war was all about oil.

Most of the wars in Africa are due to land acquisition, which is part of economics.

WWIII will be about what is left of our natural resources.

The "war on terror" is a faux war used for acquiring natural resources in the middle east and southern asia.

If you call imperialism purely economic, sure.
Don't even try predicting world war III i'm watching some jesus freak on early morning TV predicting the apocalypse.
The US are smart enough to know they can't get away with the exact same thing as the USSR did.

 

[Martin]

I was talking about your point about religion being harmful for people.If believing in what you dont see makes a person feel good,what's wrong with it?If he's not forcing his belief system upon you,what's the bad part about it all?The fact that he doesnt have supposedly cold logic on his side?

Believing that drunk driving is awesome probably makes a lot of people feel good. It can't possibly harm anyone, right?

Believing that unprotected sex is risk free isn't harmful. Believing that drinking water from a polluted stream isn't harmful. I could go on for days..

You're right, there's nothing harmful about believing anything just as long as it makes someone feel good.

 

[Bjerknes]

If you call imperialism purely economic, sure.
Don't even try predicting world war III i'm watching some jesus freak on early morning TV predicting the apocalypse.
The US are smart enough to know they can't get away with the exact same thing as the USSR did.

Word War III will be fought over natural resources, because we are running out of many. Things are setting up rather nicely, and I would put a bet on it.

 

[Nenz]

Last I recall I was debating Juve Rev on whether religion is harmful. Then you come in, seemingly not having actually read it (since you say you were replying to me) and go on a long diatribe about wars and the salvation army and lord knows what else. Since the post was directed at me supposedly, I can say I consider it quite off topic.

I won't be bothered quoting it. But when someone asked how this matters you answered with a sweeping negative statement about religion.
Anyway i know this is just one of your ploys to bag the crap out of religion anyway so really when you think about it, it is on topic.

 

[Nenz]

Word War III will be fought over natural resources, because we are running out of many. Things are setting up rather nicely, and I would put a bet on it.

The EU are very slowly, but surely making their transition into a world free of the natural resources we depend on. If there is any deterrent to your theory, its common sense and global warming.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Believing that drunk driving is awesome probably makes a lot of people feel good. It can't possibly harm anyone, right?

Believing that unprotected sex is risk free isn't harmful. Believing that drinking water from a polluted stream isn't harmful. I could go on for days..

You're right, there's nothing harmful about believing anything just as long as it makes someone feel good.

Poor argument.You bring up points that are universally accepted as being harmful.We all know unprotected sex,polluted water etc are not good for you.The same cannot be said about religion.Religion,regardless of wether you hate it or like it,is a code of life meant for the betterment of people.Wether people actually use it that way is another issue.

 

[Nenz]

Believing that drunk driving is awesome probably makes a lot of people feel good. It can't possibly harm anyone, right?

Believing that unprotected sex is risk free isn't harmful. Believing that drinking water from a polluted stream isn't harmful. I could go on for days..

You're right, there's nothing harmful about believing anything just as long as it makes someone feel good.

you're clutching straws

 

[Bjerknes]

The EU are very slowly, but surely making their transition into a world free of the natural resources we depend on. If there is any deterrent to your theory, its common sense and global warming.

Global Warming isn't even proven yet.

Common sense? Common sense tells us people fight over things they need to survive, as in food and other natural resources. It's all about the survival of the fittest.

But oh wait, I forgot you religious people don't know shit about this topic.