A Blame of Thrones: Mafia Game (15 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
70,801
Nobody on Tuz. Y'all some nerds. Maybe Rus & Turk are hood enough

Nah but I tried to read the last 3 pages and it's all bumble jumble... I honestly have no clues.
guess who said this:

"one mistake which is common by the majority every time we play is the attention payed to stupidity. My guess is that it's the lack of information which creates suspicion and paranoia, and that's why the Cs pay that much attention to something stupid done by another civilian. They don't know who's a G, so if someone says something unusual, they all vote for him, or the entire discussion is about that act. They always fail to understand that they're dealing with one of them, who also has no idea what's happening and in his lack of information decides to make the stupidity."
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,762
guess who said this:

"one mistake which is common by the majority every time we play is the attention payed to stupidity. My guess is that it's the lack of information which creates suspicion and paranoia, and that's why the Cs pay that much attention to something stupid done by another civilian. They don't know who's a G, so if someone says something unusual, they all vote for him, or the entire discussion is about that act. They always fail to understand that they're dealing with one of them, who also has no idea what's happening and in his lack of information decides to make the stupidity."
Sounds like Fred Weasley
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,762
it was alen who said that, thing is with alen even if he is not a G, he still hopes to be recruited, but hes not being analytic enough to avoid getting whacked early.

Anyways, fred, voller, and klin are suspicious of the active ones. the rest including you are just hiding.
Well I'm not going to defend myself for not being here on the deadline for once :rolleyes:

I would think if Alen is being analytical and a threat to the Gs, that's more reason for him to be whacked
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
62,797
Not really sure how I have become a possible G :D

It is hard to read what happened last night but I'd agree in saying that one of Fred or Hoori are G's

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I am definitely leaning that way anyway.

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What caught my attention is Fred's change in vote in the last minute to radekas. Read below:







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Thanks to Fred.
I think this is pretty damning. They knew that if they voted for Radekas and he wen't it would get less heat than if they voted for me and I went.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
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That's all fine, Klin, but who was Fred trying to save there?

To vote like that as a G, you must be trying to save another G, right?

Who? Hoori or Janna?
If he was saving Hoori, why did he need to involve and make himself a #1 suspect, when Hoori could have saved herself by voting for Janna?
If he was saving Janna, why did he need to involve and make himself a #1 suspect, when Janna could have saved herself by changing her vote from you to Hoori?

Or were both Janna and Hoori Gs? In that case, why didn't Janna vote for Radekas, instead of forcing Fred to involve his brown ass and make himself a #1 suspect?
I explained clearly.
If he's a G he defended Hoori or Janna. Which one and why did he do it?
It surely can't be Janna, because she could have saved herself by voting for Hoori, and viceversa - Hoori could have saved herself by voting for Janna.

Unless Hoori didn't want to vote for Janna (why wouldn't she?), or, the more possible scenario - Janna didn't want to vote for Hoori because Hoori is friendly to her.

It makes little sense.
Then again, it doesn't make much sense to get involved that way even if he's a C.
There is another less obvious option and the more I think about it I still can't rule it out. What if Hoori is a G and Janna really is a special role and the G's are on to her ?

Janna claims a role on the first day,whoever the G's are at least one of them can easily get her to reveal herself to him and her role if she didn't do it herself already, It happened before more then once, and she is not the type of person that cares about winning as much as having fun. Selling her fellow C's to one of the more popular players for giggles is not out of the question, of course it can also be that they tricked her into revealing by claiming a role as well.

two or three games ago when she pulled a similar stunt she was lynched straight away, this time almost none of the experienced players seemed eager to pursue her or put her on the spot which I find fishy in itself. X was jailed, Osman was getting there but was missing for a couple of hours before the deadline and later whacked.

Now the G's have a C with a role in their pocket, and then comes the messy voting. It's Horri, a G with 2, Salvo with 2 and the rest are with one vote, I vote, five minutes from deadline, and it's now Janna with 2 votes as well. with only few minutes to go and having no time to coordinate Fred steps up and votes Radekas to save both Hoori and Janna.

In that case Hoori wouldn't have to vote Janna off and loose the G's a puppet with a role and Janna wont vote Hoori off either because she knows she his working for the same team or for the reasons Alen mentions above (personally I think it's more likely that she was just kept in the dark at that point in regard to who the other G's are and that's might be why she hesitated to vote someone else off)

Now I think that even though Fred voting was risky, and it might happened just because the circumstances of the heretic voting dictated it, it was still a move a player like Fred can cover. The voting was so fishy that selling how unlikely it is for a player like Fred to vote like that is not very difficult and here I got to say that you Alen played that role perfectly, with your intention or not.

Just throwing it out there
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Guys,

I fucked up yesterday, I really did. I took a risk and it did not pay off, Hoori could be a G, she might not be. My line of thinking yesterday was selfish, I genuinely thought that she and Salvo were C's, because nobody else came to their rescue. My thinking at the time was she and Salvo both had two votes only, and there were several who had one vote, it would have been very easy to vote for someone else early on and remove a little bit of the danger of Salvo and Hoori. I genuinely thought that meant they couldn't be G's, and as such I wanted to save them. I had a really big hunch on Radekas, and I didn't hide that all game, this is where my selfishness came to play. I thought if Radekas was a G, and I dealt him the final blow, it would give me a kind of credible status among C's. Instead it's backfired and I now look extremely suspicious.

Just think about this for a minute, if both I and Hoori were G's, or even Salvo for that matter, would I really have needed to take that risk and vote for Radekas in the last minute. Think about it, put yourself in my place and imagine I was a G, it just is an unnecessary risk if I knew Radekas was a C, an absolutely unnecessary risk I didn't have to take. Hoori could have been saved without me doing that. Also why Radekas, why not Salvo? Unless Salvo too was a G, it would make a lot more sense if I voted for Salvo if I were a G.

I took an unnecessary risk, even as a C, and like I said it was kind of selfish. But if you guys really thought about it, you'd know I'd never make such a high profile mistake as a G.
 

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