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  1. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Because the Liverpool fans will be chasing you?
  2. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    I don't see why Liverpool fans who charged at Heysel are portrayed as murderous animals, while little or no blame is attached to those at Hillsborough who went in without tickets. In both cases the authorities failed in their duties, but that doesn't change that a major factor in both cases...
  3. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    So the Liverpool fans who forced their way in without tickets and contributed to the overcrowding had nothing at all to do with the problems at Hillsborough?
  4. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    He probably said something completely different, but the interviewer couldn't understand his mumble.
  5. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    That's a rather illogical argument.
  6. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    What Liverpool fans did was pretty ordinary behaviour for British fans in the 1980s. That does not, of course, mean it was right. Anyway, all people are trying to say is that too great an emphasis is placed on the Liverpool fans' behaviour and not enough blame is attached to other...
  7. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    I just finished my studies a couple of weeks ago, so I'm just starting to look for a job. Interestingly, at Hillsborough, the victims' families brought actions against the police, rather than against all the Liverpool fans who had forced their way into the stand, despite not having tickets...
  8. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Not necessarily. Heaps of things are very open to interpretation.
  9. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Scotland's version of manslaughter, 'culpable homocide', has a much more appropriate name in my book. Seven is correct on the legal matters. I know it is difficult, but folk need to avoid letting emotions influence their judgement on matters such as this.
  10. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    True. The communication between the Belgian and English police forces apparently was almost non-existent. One phone call between the forces would have been enough for the Belgians to be made aware that the Liverpool fans would be likely to engage in some 'running' and the English could...
  11. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    That is why I say that the whole culture of English football was largely responsible for the incident. Something like that could just as easily have happened of Juve were playing Man Utd, Arsenal or any other English team.
  12. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    'Running', as that was known (charging at opposition fans to try and take their part of the ground) was a pretty normal thing to do in England back than and was basically seen as a bit of harmless fun. The problem occurred because the Juve fans didn't understand what was going on and because...
  13. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    :scared:
  14. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Liverpool fans weren't trying to kill Juve fans. It was just an unfortunate sequence of events that resulted in tragedy. You clearly either don't have sufficient understanding of what happened and what football was like then or you are deliberating choosing to view it in a certain way...
  15. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    How about the Bradford fire where 56 people died and another couple of hundred people were injured? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire
  16. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    You would think that, murderer.
  17. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Why is Heysel any more 'touching' a tragedy than any other incident resulting in deaths in a football stadium?
  18. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    :tup:
  19. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    Surely it is safe to assume that any Liverpool fan under the age of about 35 can't be held responsible on the basis that they probably wouldn't have been involved. That takes out a massive chunk of Liverpool fans straight away.
  20. Red

    Heysel: In Memoriam

    :lol: