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Everybody does that.

Fred is right here, the discussion about Xavi and Zanetti was just out of this world.

It's a matter of personal taste. I like Eastern Europe too, but i would love to live in Italy some day. It would be cool to travel around the world for such a long time. He must have had a great time in his journey.

Really? Where did he went in East Europe?

Yeah, and I' very proud of him. But your whole team is better, and that makes it easier. Maybe if Stankevicius was some kind of Baggio, but he is just a hard working wing-back, this is not a player who wins game. And the rest of the team is awful. There are national level players who don't...

Hehe our best one is Stankevicius from Samp, and you can really see the difference in terms of play quality between him and the rest of the team. And he isn't even a gifted footballer or anything, he is just an average player who gets regular playing time on high level every week.

Oh yeah, i heard that its because of the manager. Still i remember liking your team play in Euro. In my opinion the main problem is that players don't play regular at the highest level, so when they face a team with players who are used to playing at high levels every day they can win only by...

Never knew that about Polish football. But from what i can remember from Euro is that you have a young team who has a good potential, and it didn't play German football, this very disciplined two steps forward one step back football. In fact they played fast short-passing attacking game and...

Well I think they picked Russia because Lithuania were part of Russia when they were growing up, and if I'm not mistaken they played in Russian league before moving to NHL. Since you are from Poland you should know that our Baltic nations has strong ties with Russia throughout the history.

Yes, i think they should be proud too. We have had few good NHL hockey players who played for Russia, because we didn't had a normal team. I always support them and am proud of them even though they have played for Russia.

I got to admit it is an interesting theory :D

Nah, after fourth generations one can lose this traitor trait. :)

First of all, we were in an unique situation, and we couldn't keep all of our star players. So some of them were bound to leave, and the board pushed them, some of them had the class to not go to our direct rivals, and even worse to Inter. While I don't care about that in Ibra or Veira...

As for Russian Basketball team, well there is nothing to talk about it, there are four or five, maybe even more cases that players were given citizenship just to play for their national team in the past years without any link to Russia.

Are you trying to be stupid?

As Martin said, one gets angry only when someone betrays him, but when someone betrays for him, he sees no problem. I wouldn't want Ibra, Veira not only for this reason. Zambrotta is a different case a bit. And I'm not angry about Canna, and if he manages at least half of his form he had it...

Have you felt bad when Juve bought players from other clubs? Nedved, Baggio for eg? They were considered traitors too, so who is the real hypocrite in this situation?

I don't like Ibra too, for the same reasons. But I don't think Camo is first class asshole, he has his downisides about him and his character, but he is far of from Ibra, C.Ronaldo and such. Although your incident doesn't say anything remotely good about him. Anyway, he won't be here long with...

Could you elaborate, I would certainly like to know more about players who play for my favorite club. Btw, I'm not a fan of his attitude too, but I love his magic which he performs on the pitch.

No problem. Now i think i should have added injury free too :D Anyway its too bad for Juve, that he is very injury prone, not on form and past his prime:frown: