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  1. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I think I get you more then you think. All peace offers sent thier way were very steep compormises. Rabin was assisted for compromising too much. Barak's camp david and Ollmert's offer in 2008 were all comprises. They refused any and all deals. For every offer of peace they have answered with...
  2. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You didn't drop any mic's here bud. Pepole need to stop this idiotic habit of using anecdotes as prof.
  3. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    The fastest way to stop the killing and ethnic cleansing of palastinians is for them to disarm, surrender and accept israeli/american peace terms. The best and fastest way to get palestinians to do that is to stop cuddeling them, stop the subseides and international aid and stop incentives them...
  4. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    This touches the issue I have with westerners using the slogan "free palestin". Their version of it is not true to the original meaning, it's a "soft" version they can live with. Their version is the easier to digest one and gather more support around. Typical "westsplaining".
  5. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Thanks. Brilliant read. Wish they had more sensible voices like that
  6. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Hasidic jews are a more strict sub group of Haredic jews. There are a lot of sub-groups even within the hasidic movement. Wildly different behaviours. Most orthodox jews abroad are hasidic, usually similar to the more strict, isolationist hasidic groups in Israel. Some of their neighborhoods...
  7. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Can't blame him. Don't like'em either. I imagin they are even worse abroad. Hasidic jew have very little in common with every other Israeli or jew beside being jewish. Even their version of Judaism is a perversion of it.
  8. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    No chance for hasidic jew in South Central America. Not enough social benefits to suck on
  9. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I haven't. I remember chants " deaths to palestinian" from the wave of protests on the sanctions a few years back.
  10. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Almost, it's free when you don't get killed for wearing a wrong outfit.
  11. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    To a degree we can agree on that. We can be too proudfull for our own and others good.
  12. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Almost no country can, we are not an exception. If it's not clear, I meant independent of whoever is supporting us currently. What you are talking about is a completly hypothetical scenario that never existes. Even sanctioned countries have enough way to baypass those.
  13. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Russia, China, India. We are not allied or depended on those countries because we are under western world sphere of influence. A lot of possible trading and co operation is blocked from us under US term & conditions. Iran will also be free one day, and we were best buds before the Islamic...
  14. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It is tiny, but with a pretty good deterrence established and a strong enconomy for our size. The only real threat is Iran and it's proxis. While the US does support us I think its a bit overstated. I don't see how Europe support us in any real way. The US support also comes with a cost...
  15. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Sure buddy
  16. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    All good brother, there was an incident yesterday so I was a bit more emotional than usual. Appreciate it.
  17. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Amen
  18. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I agree wholeheartedly. To the letter. I'm not afraid for myself, I'm not out for revenge. Anger gets you killed, in the real and mentally as you said. But I really can't speak for all the soldiers that will be on the ground, I can only hope but I do believe. Let's be honest here, if we wanted...
  19. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I just posted, but as you will see I think you completely misjudge the situation. It too late for all that 1697667638 Not gonna read all that but I will guess you never served
  20. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I completely understand and appreciate your point. When I hear an Israeli talk of revenge or flattening gaza I squirm out of instinct. Honestly. But I understand people are driven by basic emotion and we are all grieving. The problem is, and I said it in my first post here after the event is...