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mark83, you know what our illicit behavior was? "We influenced the champioship and did so without influencing the decourse of the matches nor their results" (taken from the verdict) Now, considering that what happened on the pitch wasn't influenced by anything, we know that nothing that...

This is the thread about the new investigations going on. If you have other matters to discuss, do it privately.

Thanks :)

Anyway, back to topic, read Borrelli's words and the answer by Matarrese: Borrelli: On Wed 17th, he told the press that he and his office had finished their investiagtions about Inter and Milan (started because the ipervaluation of a certain Brunelli, a keeper who gains 2.500 € a year and...

You are not new to this or to saying this to me. My best regards. Same old story. I read the verdicts, I read the phone taps, I read a lot about this. And you? What do you actually know about what happened? Finally something constructive. :) You see, the perspective is a bit different...

Exactly :agree:

I taped Ale's interview of today. These are some pieces of it. Let's start with the most important and interesting one: Federico Ferri (the Sky journalist following Juve): Un'ultima curiosità da parte mia: Massimo Mauro, domenica scorsa durante Sky Calcio Show, ha detto "Attenzione che...

He played very well :wink:

I guess you live in an alternate universe. But, you know, in the real world, the one we live in, people are innocent until proven guilty. This means that it's you that has to provide proof. Btw, your admitting that you don't read anything more than 15 lines long (too difficult, perhaps? Or...

I guess I should :D But you know me, I can't just ignore certain things being said about what happened this summer :disagree:

You really bring a smile to my face, sometimes. The proof, bring me the proof. And while you look for them, go to read also the sportive verdict that sent us to b. Pages 60-65, to be more precise. It states that no art 6 was broken. It states how they had to make up a new illicit to be...

Let's hope so. I'm a bit worried of prescription, though. In Italian sportive justice it's on cases more than 2 years old..

My point is that while Inter and Milan would be proven as cheaters (even though it wouldn't be the first time for Inter), Juve was never proven as one.

Finally they opened their eyes on the 180 million debt. But, as you can see, it's just* the ordinary justice working. The sportive one didn't move a finger, exactly like they did with recoba's false passport and many other things. They spring to life only against us :disagree: * "Just"...

I did and I swear that "homeless" is the same thing I thought. :D

This sucks. Not only they had to cut him off, but having Nicole discover he was cheating is so uncalled for and, imho, also so out of character for Angelo. :disagree:

To be fair, both Andrea and John (together with other members of the family) sit at the IFI board, but since John is the IFIL's and Fiat's vice president and since he's under the wing of Montezemolo (president of Fiat, Ferrari, Confindustria and much more), it's surely him the one who holds more...

This is the main question, I guess. Why didn't they do something? Or better, why did they start with making their lawyer ask for a penalized B (!!), then decided to appeal to Tar, saying they couldn't accept be treated that way and then, at the last moment, retired the appeal and erased 2...