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  1. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Cleared off what? People? Sure. Never ever going to happen though 1698688248 No need for absurdity. Death camps with gas Chambers are not a spontaneous occurrence
  2. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It is not a case for genocide, no
  3. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    While I agree the problem with using the word genocide incorrectly is the skewing of the morallty debate.
  4. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You removed the explicit intent part. Without it what you provide here is the definition of every war ever fought.
  5. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You are showing again that you will take numbers and information coming out only from official hamas sources as gospel. Just like you did before with the hospital bullshit. Its is proven beyond doubt that they have and will fabricate anything. On the other hand you are super critical of any...
  6. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You are assgining intent, not proving it.
  7. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    If we take the humane aspect out of it we can also then argue that the end result itself barely qualify.
  8. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Most kids in gaza don't have smartphones, they have this Many more clips like that online
  9. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Every genocide is a war but not every war is a genocide
  10. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Most important perquisite in the genocide qualification is intent. I don't think you can prove unequivocally an expressed intent. It needs to be a goal in of itself. A politician pandering is not it.
  11. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I think we are ignoring the most important pillar of totalitarian regimes. Taking control of the education system and state media. They want their people to live in a bubble. No control method is effective as gaining public support by indoctrination and brainwashing.
  12. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Sure, but diaspora jews don't get to vote in Israeli election. Heck, even israelis living abroad can't.
  13. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Sure. And I don't hold it against them. It's well within their right
  14. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It is a fair point, I disagree though. Not every jew wants, care or willing to be an Israeli, you are forcing it upon them for the fact they are jewish.
  15. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    True. But it is not like they voted in a movment that hid its intentions or decived them to think there will ever be another election. I'm also sure they still will beat the PA if any election in gaza will take place in the near future
  16. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    What is?
  17. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It is a false equivalency though, hamas is the elected and de facto leadership of gazans. Israel and Israeli goverments has nothing to do with dispora jews. It is purest form of racism. And you seem to justify it.
  18. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It's a valid argument that I can agree with but the last part. First you are right but I don't think it's neccesserily pretending with an intent as you my conclude, some of it maybe. israelis are captives of this mentality, in part due to being a persecuted minority for over a millenia and for...
  19. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    He is a very naive person and dishonest, or deft. First, No sense in acting as if Hamas are a rational player with any Intent on reaching any peaceful agreement. Their sole reason of existence is resistance to Israel, without it they will have no funding, no money to embazle and no legitimacy...
  20. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Those guys are also a massive driving force behind the settler and the "whole israel" movement. They have, together with conservative-liberterian American Jewish group called Kohelet subverted and influenced a lot of Israeli politics and policies last decade, among them the recent judicial...