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  1. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Oh my… How clueless/deluded are you?
  2. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Perhaps. Don't know when it was and if it's still as you remember. AIPAC money is chump change compared to the money spent yearly by Qatar and others like China on American academia. First just to clarify, I didn't mean there are no incidents where civilian casualties are taken into account...
  3. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    But to me you imply that when you constantly say that we are begging and giving nothing in return as you said, we give plenty in return imo. And I think it's much bigger then just economic motives. More to the point, Bibi in general is very hard to stomach. A scum of a human being. The poster...
  4. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Europe favor us over who? this is not a zero sum game. Some European countries favor us, some don't. it all seems like normal geopolitics to me. You are constantly trying to picture it as some nefarious, unholy, Un-legitime affair the goes against the best interest of those countries. The simple...
  5. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I talked about you specifically wanting to treat us worse, not Europe in general. I also don't think you speak on their behalf, same as I don't. Europe is not a monolith. You said we have benefits other don't have, what are they? are the only ones? No, that was my point. Hence you want to treat...
  6. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    What resources? UEFA prize money lol?
  7. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    We have mutually beneficial trade agreement and other agreements with the EU just like many, many other non-member countries. You don't want to treat us like any other country, you want to treat us worse. And that's fine but be honest about it.
  8. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Our "neighbors" can't get along between themselves, they have been killing each other a 100 fold then our entire conflict. And if you claim that you "put" us here then what are you crying about? take some responsibility.
  9. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I've seen pretty harsh criticism of Israel across all media, I think we all suffer from conformation bias. It is not one-sided at all, we just view it from completely different perspectives. Also let's be honest the Jewish troup of jews control the media also play subconsciously a part here. In...
  10. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    The term Sephardi jew means of Sephardic descent not Spanish or Portuguese jews. almost all Northern African Jews, Balkan and Turkish jews are decedents of Jews who fled/were kicked out of Spain/Portugal after the inquisition in the 1400's, in Spain and Portugal there were almost no jews left...
  11. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It's a mentality thing that ties into the point I made. I think it's a natural reaction to the dissonance between how we perceive this conflict to how many outsiders perceive it, irrespective of what's true. Also Israeli media mostly highlights when the western media is perceived as biased or...
  12. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I'm not saying you are ignorant at all, I think it will be very easy for an outsider to underestimate how much the non-western/Arab mentality is part of our culture, regardless of our pretenses, our looks, or how we market ourselves to the outside. Vast majority of Israelis today are either...
  13. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    :rolleyes:
  14. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Wanna bet? with as little credit I give them I'm still wiling
  15. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    It's just your interpretation. Kazakhstan plays in Europe and Algeria, Marrocco and Australia are eligible members of Eurovision 1718719143 You can keep calling it genocide till your head explodes, doesn't make it so. the world isn't run on twitter threads.
  16. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Again, you are sidestepping, what political and economic "help"? glancing over it like it's some undeniable fact. I don't see it. All we are left with is again, entrainment. And to the bald part, we still are.
  17. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    I think you put too much stock on words used by politician. They serve a purpose, a tool. they are not a personal reflection on you or your country. The bias, objectivity and political nature of institutions like the UN, ICJ and the ICC is a whole other matter. You put us in gas chambers...
  18. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Belgium is a part. yes. one of many. How in your view "Europe" as an entity helps Israel, let alone Belgium? I'm genuinely curios
  19. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    You side stepped my argument completely and using the Eurovision to make a point is a bit weird but OK. Also it's a narrative you choose to accept not the only one. Also who is "we"? aren't you Belgian?
  20. Tomice

    Israeli-Palestinian conflict

    Remember the "targeted" Israeli Hospital bombing you lot rioted about for 5 pages? the one with "500 dead children and elderly"? reported first by AJ no less and then quoted by every mainstream media? The vitriol here was off the charts with zero benefit of the doubt. when Israeli denied and...