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Giuntoli, Motta and now Conte. That's quite the record.

Agree with pretty much everything here, but Torino has experienced a pretty significant increase in terms of tourism the past few years. Still one of the best cities to spend some time in though. On an unrelated note: Rehiring a previous coach almost never works out. So Conte not coming back...

The football I find enjoyable is the one where we win games/trophies.

I'd settle for "better than this season." Comfortable top 4 finish. Decent run in Europe (meaning last 16 or better). A Coppa win is always nice.

But it's the 2nd Giuntoli season that has now ended. A 2nd season that has been (far) worse than the 1st one.

He most certainly does.

I really don't think so. If he was still on our bench last night, we would have started this game in 9th position behind Bologna & Milan with nothing play for. No reason to panic whatsoever.

Most consistent player of the season, together with Gatti. Others (mainly Thuram & Yildiz) were better at times, but (far) worse at other times.

Barely. :grin: A pretty lucky win, but I'll take it.

Thinking back to all your glowing posts about Giuntoli a while ago, you're the last person who should call anyone delusional. :grin:

2 wrongs don't make a right. Kelly was a joke of a transfer, but that doesn't mean €30m for Conceicao is a fair price. Personally, I wouldn't sign him as his numbers are very underwhelming. On the other hand, I'm familiar with the guy in charge of our transfers. And he'd most likely spend that...

Selling him would be dumb. Here are some interesting stats @Alen : Yildiz 226 minutes per goal or assist. Conceicao 218 Nico Gonzalez 240 Mbangula 135 And yes, I know stats don't give you a complete picture, but this kid should have played a lot more.

What makes you think it would take that long?

Hiring Allegri again was also a "guarantee". :grin:

Don't get me wrong, I agree that those players were signed to have an immediate impact. But, for me, these players don't fit the "win immediately" bill. Decent players on their day, probably, but nothing more. And it shows.

I'm cautiously optimistic about tonight. We'll throw everything away next week.

Really? Win immediately? Koopmeiners maybe fits (fitted) that category, but not a single other new player does/did.

He's had 4 miserable transfer windows now.

Most games should be played at the same time. https://img.legaseriea.it/vimages/681df167/230%20-%20Programmazione%2037%5Eg%20Serie%20A%20Enilive%2024-25.pdf

I guess the CL isn't very good either. ;) Based on the actual numbers, Serie A is currently the 2nd best league in Europe.