Zlatan to Juve? (15 Viewers)

[Stu]

++ [ originally posted by bianconero ] ++


just how much do you think we are going to get for Trez in todays market?

Surely not enough to bank=roll these buys.

Lovely eyes is the man they want at chelski. The rumour has it that he is one of Romans all time favourite players...so who knows maybe lots of dosh.
Worth it I say, if and this is a big if , it is true.

Well, Barcelona seem willing to offer 20-25m and if Abramovic wants Trez I'm sure he'll be ready to spend about 30m, maybe 35 if competition from Barca is good. I don't think Mexes will cost alot, if any, more than 10m, and Zlatan is said to be valued at 8m, so let's say that we spend 20m on Mexes and Zlatan, that leaves something like 5-10m, and Dortmund would be being unreasonable if they want more than 20m for Rosicky. Therefore we'd need a further 15m at most, and Juve certainly have that, and I'm confident that more than one player will leave us this summer.

 

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[gray]

++ [ originally posted by Juve100% ] ++
well i can see you dont like Trezeguet, for me if he's scoring the goals thats whats important. Not how he scored, if it was head feet, knee etc or from 1,2 or 30 yards. it dont matter.....he scores!!!

We're not talking about how he scores the goals or what part of his body he uses; we're talking about how involved he is with the build-up play.

Look at so many of Henry's goals, he has the ball at halfway, he dribbles past 2 defenders - making plenty of space, then passes it off to another player, who feeds it back to him in the box, leaving Henry with a simple finish.

Now the thing we have in common is that the final finish is just a simple tap-in, but the difference is that players like Henry and even Ibrahimovic get involved in the buildup play. Can you imagine Trezeguet being so active before the final touch? I can't.

 

[bianconero]

barcelona have good taste, and he is indeed worth the money. So why are we once again letting a prize asset go?

Roman wants L eyes DP those in know say. So theres our money to finace our rebuilding.

 

[Stu]

It's going to be Nedved, Trezeguet OR Del Piero that leaves, not more than one of them and out of those three players I'd rather lose Trez, although it would depend on the respective bids.

 

[Stu]

Come to think of it, DP to Chelsea actually makes sense. I know that Moggi is hardly the most trustworthy of men, but he has repeatedly stated that Trez and Ned are staying. Could this mean that Alex is the one on his way out?

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by Stuart ] ++
Come to think of it, DP to Chelsea actually makes sense. I know that Moggi is hardly the most trustworthy of men, but he has repeatedly stated that Trez and Ned are staying. Could this mean that Alex is the one on his way out?

Then again, at least there's been talk of Trez and Ned moving. There hasn't been any talk of DP moving so i think one of Trez and Ned will leave... remember, Moggi said it

 

[bianconero]

He also said that L eyes was the soul of the team...
Watch out theres a Moggi about. Dissemination is this mans middle name, of course i have translated it from the Italian. "Diffusione."

 

[A_LAcki]

++ [ originally posted by Andrea Becchi ] ++


Very well said.

David Trezeguet can do only this: tap in a grass cutter cross along the six and head in a few corners.

What Trezeguet cannot do: Take players on 1v1, make incisive runs, fall back to help the midfield, make good through passes, make good crosses, and take penalties.

I think the bottle is less than half full for Trez.

Ibrahimovic can do it all.

Trezeguet can score more than 15 goals in one season! Zlatan can't! In one or two years Zlatan is our player! For now he simply scores too less!

 

[nusi]

no zlatan in turin

cavinaghi is better choice...

young and talented...

 

[Dj Juve]

did anyone see zlatan's goal vs AZ Akzmaar last weekend

im sure as hell that treze could never have done that :thumb:

 

[Togon]

++ [ originally posted by Dj Juve ] ++
did anyone see zlatan's goal vs AZ Akzmaar last weekend

im sure as hell that treze could never have done that :thumb:

I hope he never sinks so low to play against AZ Alkmaar.
When he was the same age, he already played for Juve, and scored 14 goals in 25 matches.

A year earlier he scored 22 in french league, a bit tougher than eredivisie.

The way he scored his second last match, was a beauty (fakes a shot with left, then pass it past the goalie with the outside of his right)

Last year he scored wondergoal, a volley against I dunno who, but it was the only goal of the game.

 

[Ahmed_]

There is no question about Trez's ability inside the 18 yards box, but outside that box he is nothing ... This is his problem with juve if he finds someone supplying him with balls all the time no one will ever think of selling him....

 

[A_LAcki]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I hope he never sinks so low to play against AZ Alkmaar.
When he was the same age, he already played for Juve, and scored 14 goals in 25 matches.

A year earlier he scored 22 in french league, a bit tougher than eredivisie.

The way he scored his second last match, was a beauty (fakes a shot with left, then pass it past the goalie with the outside of his right)

Last year he scored wondergoal, a volley against I dunno who, but it was the only goal of the game.

Great post!

 

[di_vatai]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++


I hope he never sinks so low to play against AZ Alkmaar.
When he was the same age, he already played for Juve, and scored 14 goals in 25 matches.

A year earlier he scored 22 in french league, a bit tougher than eredivisie.

The way he scored his second last match, was a beauty (fakes a shot with left, then pass it past the goalie with the outside of his right)

Last year he scored wondergoal, a volley against I dunno who, but it was the only goal of the game.

Zlatan is an extremly talented player, but simply not a professional footballer, not the player who decides well in important situations. Anyway, he's also very antipathic, and far from being a teamplayer.
But this is the last chance to see some money for Trez, so it seems to be the end of his juve-career. Even if he's one of my favourite juve-player. ..:down: :greedy:
no idea what the hell we want with DYO...
we should be giants, shouldn't we?

 

[gray]

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++
I hope he never sinks so low to play against AZ Alkmaar.
When he was the same age, he already played for Juve, and scored 14 goals in 25 matches.

A year earlier he scored 22 in french league, a bit tougher than eredivisie

How many times must it be said that it's not about the number of goals Trezeguet scores, or the way in which he scores them. We're talking about the level of involvement he has with build-up play and particularly with regards to making chances for his team-mates. Sure, if we sign a more creative player, he might not score as many goals as Trez, but there's a fairly good chance that he'll compensate for that by setting up chances for his teammates, making space and splitting defences apart with runs and possibly dribbles.

I'm not saying that Zlatan is definitely the man for the job, but in terms of involvement with play, I'd take Ibra over Trez any day. Just look at the last match we played. He only got involved in the play twice. Sure, he scored two goals, and good on him. But what if he missed one or both of them? What would have meant that he was completely useless, just a spectator. Now a more creative player on the other hand, even if he doesn't score in a match.. you could still say about him "He made a lot of good opportunities and set up some brilliant chances for his teammates".

Basically, the only thing Trez can contribute to a match is goals. Okay that sounds stupid, because he's a striker, but if Trez doesn't score, he contributes zilch. I want a player who can still make an impact on a match even without scoring.

++ [ originally posted by Togon ] ++
The way he scored his second last match, was a beauty (fakes a shot with left, then pass it past the goalie with the outside of his right)

Last year he scored wondergoal, a volley against I dunno who, but it was the only goal of the game.

Wow, two good goals in two seasons...

it was against Udinese btw

 

[Stu]

++ [ originally posted by Dj Juve ] ++
did anyone see zlatan's goal vs AZ Akzmaar last weekend

im sure as hell that treze could never have done that :thumb:

I haven't seen it as of yet but fortunately I get to watch that game today so I'll have a look

 

[Stu]

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++


How many times must it be said that it's not about the number of goals Trezeguet scores, or the way in which he scores them. We're talking about the level of involvement he has with build-up play and particularly with regards to making chances for his team-mates. Sure, if we sign a more creative player, he might not score as many goals as Trez, but there's a fairly good chance that he'll compensate for that by setting up chances for his teammates, making space and splitting defences apart with runs and possibly dribbles.

I'm not saying that Zlatan is definitely the man for the job, but in terms of involvement with play, I'd take Ibra over Trez any day. Just look at the last match we played. He only got involved in the play twice. Sure, he scored two goals, and good on him. But what if he missed one or both of them? What would have meant that he was completely useless, just a spectator. Now a more creative player on the other hand, even if he doesn't score in a match.. you could still say about him "He made a lot of good opportunities and set up some brilliant chances for his teammates".

Basically, the only thing Trez can contribute to a match is goals. Okay that sounds stupid, because he's a striker, but if Trez doesn't score, he contributes zilch. I want a player who can still make an impact on a match even without scoring.

I agree 100%.

 

[Ahmed_]

++ [ originally posted by Graham ] ++

Wow, two good goals in two seasons...

it was against Udinese btw

If he keeps it like this we will win everything

 

[BarkuZ-yes i am an ass]

Well,seeing the roumours about DP leaving Juve for Chelskey.....I must mention something....When did you seen THE REAL del piero last time? I saw that in 1996(or a year later),just before his leg wad demolished.....yess,he did came back....but that was different DP.....DP who tried but nothing seemd to fit in the right place. Now....why did that happened? Heres my solution: Take a look on his fellow-mates in Juve attack before injurie and after:

Baggio,Ravanelli,Vialli,Boksic,Vieri and after Inzaghi,Trezeguet

Now,we see that before injurie he had one of the best fowards beside him,that could drag away 2 def and DP had more space to produce. After injurie....he had 2 attackers who live of a last touch...2 strikers who dont represent any trouble to the better defence....strikers that dont need double guard.....
So, with Inzaghi and Trez....all the defence and attention is directed to DP......
(thats my opinion maybe,but Ive seen better performances by Vieri when Adriano came back.....so I think that is the reason with DP)

 

[Desmond]

good post gray

the moment trez goes off form he'll be doing practically nothing every match,but for a player like zlatan he'd at least get involved and still try to contribute by stringing passes and making runs n' stuff.